tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post5985942603424402648..comments2024-01-09T15:49:37.273-05:00Comments on THE TENTH CRUSADE: The Voris VortexTTChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-69444565985563766882011-04-19T07:07:00.905-04:002011-04-19T07:07:00.905-04:00Veronica,
Obfuscating the Rosary and Eucharist...Veronica, <br /><br />Obfuscating the Rosary and Eucharistic Adoration is actually quite common. I was told these are devotions that are 'too scary' for the parishioners. You read that right. <br /><br />Believing Christ's Divinity is truly present and spending time with Him just can't be something the priests can put up with because it looks looney to people who don't believe.<br /><br />Meditating on the Sacred Mysteries and responding to the Blessed Mother's call to pray the Rosary is 'scary' to them for the same reason. They've packed the pew with non-believers to get money out of them and they can't have us upsetting their donors. <br /><br />I can't tell you how different the quality of life is when you get your fanny out of this internal schism and into an authentic Catholic Church that is zealously in communion with Christ's One, Holy and Apostolic Church. it's got to be there somewhere. <br /><br />Seek and you shall find, knock and the door will be open to you.TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-10946002607450333022011-04-18T21:52:08.412-04:002011-04-18T21:52:08.412-04:00Oh, Veronica. This is just so unbelievably heartbr...Oh, Veronica. This is just so unbelievably heartbreaking.<br /><br />(1)Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration: Handbook @ <br />http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/pea/handbook.html<br /><br />(2)Eucharistic Adoration - Worship of the Eucharist Outside of Mass - Part 1@<br />http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/pea/a2.html <br /><br />The second artile has tons of articles about Echaristic Adoration. Maybe if you undertook this you would have the real joy of actually seeing God change your parish.Imagine how wonderful that would be...Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704944620839677383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-31864919149684015852011-04-18T20:31:26.567-04:002011-04-18T20:31:26.567-04:00Maria,
Thank you for the suggestion. I will look...Maria,<br /><br />Thank you for the suggestion. I will look into it. We have a 24/7 Blessed Sacrament Chapel which is very small. <br /><br />One time we tried to have a Rosary after the daily Mass, this was quite a few years ago. The priest that was there at the time gave his okay, but said we had to wait fifteen minutes after Mass until everyone had time to visit with each other before we started the Rosary. Well, needless to say, after everyone finished with their visits, no one wanted to stay any longer for the Rosary. He didn't want the Rosary before Mass either.<br /><br />VeronicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-81689985905377286882011-04-18T19:19:18.179-04:002011-04-18T19:19:18.179-04:00Veronica: Does your parish have Adoration? If not,...Veronica: Does your parish have Adoration? If not, I would organize. Devote a day to priests. Fr. Hardon, at his website, the real presence.org, has materials. If you start it, people will follow. Parishes have been transformed in this way.Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704944620839677383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-13493384935256545742011-04-18T19:16:34.689-04:002011-04-18T19:16:34.689-04:00Veronica--Nice to know I am not alone.I am sorry t...Veronica--Nice to know I am not alone.I am sorry that you have such a difficult time. Pray for direction about where you should worship. Pray for vocations to your dioceses and ask that your diocese be blessed with well formed, faithful priests. Know that you are not alone...<br /><br />Joseph: Amen. The Church, like the world, looks to the world, rather than the supernatural for solutions to these problems. We need to depend more on God and less on ourselves and the body politic...Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704944620839677383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-24359621440067506662011-04-18T14:28:19.481-04:002011-04-18T14:28:19.481-04:00Maria Veronica, my whole problem with the Church&#...Maria Veronica, my whole problem with the Church's stance on illegal immigration, let alone any "Peace and Justice" committee's, is that the definition of "compassion" is completely one-sided. Do Church leaders and activists take into consideration illegal immigration's effects on employment, crime, health care and government funding, let alone the state's right to regulate its borders? In Southern California, where I live, many hospitals have had to close their emergency rooms because illegal immigrants have strained their resources. How does that help people who truly need care?<br /><br />Since the Church's stance effectively advocates open borders, are Church institutions willing to spend money many of them don't have to educate, house and provide care for these immigrants? Or is it all another rhetorical concession to "political correctness," especially since the Church (from the Pope on down) places <i>no</i> responsibility on these immigrants' homelands (most of them Catholic, btw) to take care of their own citizens before they flee?Joseph D'Hippolitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571554907399914529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-60608883292354320272011-04-18T13:25:04.148-04:002011-04-18T13:25:04.148-04:00During lenten season the peace and Justice Committ...During lenten season the peace and Justice Committee (kind of new to parish) introduced The" Stations of the Cross for Migrant Workers"They incorporated documentary film on the plight of illegals.I have compassion for these people but I do love the traditional Way of the cross.Prior to lent shown at mass was a film on "Human Trafficking" and were asked to pray for it's end and also to report to Bishop or committee if we saw anything suspect. Committee also urges us to write our senators in regard to illegals for health,immigration,education and housing. Reasearching it appeared to me very political and Bad Socialism.They blame citizens and government for not handling the immigrants with dignity. I TRY and follow the Beatitudes ,St. Francis of Assisi prayer Faith,Hope and Love and yes Charity.This weeks bulletin The Peace and Justice Committee Announce and I quote -- "Earth Day":April 22nd Come and participate in a Good Friday reverent cleanup of our church grounds as we remember our crucified Lord resting in the earth,while all creation awaits it's renewal in Him" Meet by the fountain in the courtyard at 4:00PM (immediatly after the 3"00pm Good Friday service)Bring the whole family and participate as long as you wish Garbage bags will be provided .gloves recommended Above this announcment for April 29 Peace and Justice will be showing documentary film called "Which Way Home" It features unaccompanied child migrants on their journy to reach their parents in the U,S.A.I am praying for guidance from the Holy Spirit for I am confused and disturbed it does not feel right with me and on the other hand maybe I am wrong. Not all Catholic parishes have such a committee but douw in Fl and mid west they do.They appear to disguise themselves a do gooders but research tells me different I must find another parish this is getting the better of me. Any input greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Marion VeronicaMarion Veronica Marinonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-3786006069725166912011-04-18T12:24:52.679-04:002011-04-18T12:24:52.679-04:00Bless you heart, Maria. No. It is not just you. ...Bless you heart, Maria. No. It is not just you. I have thought that for many years which is why I no longer listen to any Catholic radio and, since I don't own a television (if I had known PeeWee Herman shows were going to be rerun [not to mention the Mod Squad, another old favorite of mine], maybe I wouldn't have ditched the set twenty years ago...), it is easy not to view EWTN. <br /><br />VeronicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-29588503575292146412011-04-17T23:40:32.499-04:002011-04-17T23:40:32.499-04:00Does anyone else besides me find it a bit creepy t...Does anyone else besides me find it a bit creepy that it is a bunch of Protestants turned Catholic who feel it necessary to "instruct us"? EWTN and the blogosphere seems replete with their ilk.Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704944620839677383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-45887883475669873132011-04-17T22:01:21.556-04:002011-04-17T22:01:21.556-04:00Carol, no problem on the e-mail. Take your time. K...Carol, no problem on the e-mail. Take your time. Keep up the good work. Somebody has to do it.<br /><br />Veronica, people like Shea will eventually destroy themselves. His credibility, from what I gather, has already diminished substantially.Joseph D'Hippolitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571554907399914529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-66283128734085197772011-04-17T08:48:44.502-04:002011-04-17T08:48:44.502-04:00I think I swallowed a few mouthfuls of hay on face...I think I swallowed a few mouthfuls of hay on facebook. Boy, you probably have to recognize it right at the beginning or that spirit really has momentum?<br /><br />I don't know but - keep your eye on me because I really, really, really don't want to take that on. That is the God's hones truth.TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-91062954959381822712011-04-17T07:28:35.820-04:002011-04-17T07:28:35.820-04:00To second Maria, no neighing heard here, either.To second Maria, no neighing heard here, either.Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-47883987589641262252011-04-17T02:31:35.715-04:002011-04-17T02:31:35.715-04:00First rate post, Carol. Charity dicatates my silen...First rate post, Carol. Charity dicatates my silence on this matter. No horses ass you, my friend...Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704944620839677383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-63974709746493840312011-04-16T22:01:50.677-04:002011-04-16T22:01:50.677-04:00"I think the blogging disease of being too bi..."I think the blogging disease of being too big for one's britches might be contagious."<br /><br />Ha! I know what you mean. That happens to me over at Bryan Hehir Exposed when "David" (a.k.a. Melanson) sets the ball on the tee for me.<br /><br />Did you get a chance to read about cholesterol? I'm convinced that it's one of the biggest hoaxes played on the public at large, i.e., eating cholesterol does not lead to arterial plaque.Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-27133082627704118552011-04-16T21:39:46.026-04:002011-04-16T21:39:46.026-04:00Jerry, your comment on the sedes is excellent. ...Jerry, your comment on the sedes is excellent. Thanks for your wise observations.<br /><br />I'll tell you something -- I think the blogging disease of being too big for one's britches might be contagious. I was in a few com boxes of contagion. Keep your eye on me, will ya? If I start acting like a horses ass, slap me around.TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-158516119070320922011-04-16T21:24:09.740-04:002011-04-16T21:24:09.740-04:00Veronica,
My second comment is a footnote to my f...Veronica,<br /><br />My second comment is a footnote to my first. You had recently indicated that you were uncomfortable with both FSSP and SSPX. And now you're looking at the sedes. Hence, I sensed you're getting discouraged. Sorry if it's a poor deduction.<br /><br />BTW, I'd gladly kneel before the Holy Father.Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-38643026447764558992011-04-16T21:08:27.400-04:002011-04-16T21:08:27.400-04:00Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts on th...Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts on this. (Joe, I owe you an email -- I have not forgotten. I wanted to find the time to do a bit of research before I answered and it's been one heck of a few weeks. Forgive me--and I will answer you. I was delighted to read your email)<br /><br />Veronica, I know you've said before where you are is just empty of anything that is authentically Catholic. I've got to believe that some hospital chapel, some obscure place -- there are a few. God does not leave us abandoned. Ten years ago here in Boston, we had to go 50 miles. It's better now. It's actually much better. A really good priest is still every 50 miles or so -- but there are some fine parishes within 10 to 20 miles. Places where you'll hear about sin and redemption, where there is little to no nonsense. Some of our priests have had conversions. <br /><br />You know what really gets to me about the hoopla? These are people trying to claim they want to love and be open to everyone and to just have dialogue. But they throw grenades at people who want to dialogue about a Church that teaches truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. We can't even say that children don't belong in a parish being taught by the schismatics and to get up and find a solid priest.<br /><br />Who are they kidding?TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-90678358308231751292011-04-16T20:52:10.479-04:002011-04-16T20:52:10.479-04:00Sorry. Don't know where the "Can you?&qu...Sorry. Don't know where the "Can you?" came from.<br /><br />VeronicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-20755500005577389752011-04-16T20:50:37.004-04:002011-04-16T20:50:37.004-04:00Just saw your second comment.
The last contact I ...Just saw your second comment.<br /><br />The last contact I had with the SSPX was almost a decade ago. Back then, they still had their own marriage tribunal. I don't know if they still do. And they were still trying to convince me of their "common error" argument, which I didn't buy.<br /><br />As for their bishops kneeling before Pope Benedict XVI and asking forgiveness for the '88 consecrations...what a lively imagination you have, Jerry!!<br /><br />Veronica <br /><br />Can you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-4030402425848799502011-04-16T20:46:08.905-04:002011-04-16T20:46:08.905-04:00Thanks again, Jerry, but I don't know how you ...Thanks again, Jerry, but I don't know how you deduced that from what I wrote. Sometimes I think of just not writing anymore, so easily does what I write get misunderstood. It also could be that I express myself poorly. <br /><br /><br />VeronicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-33563076267907428142011-04-16T20:43:00.246-04:002011-04-16T20:43:00.246-04:00The SSPX stretches the concept of "supplied j...The SSPX stretches the concept of "supplied jurisdiction," yes. Are they still running their own marriage tribunals? At some point, Pope Benedict will be to blame for not addressing the legal issues. He should have had those bishops kneel before Him, ask forgiveness for the 1988 consecrations, and promise not to make any bishops.<br /><br />However, the faithful may go to SSPX Masses and receive Holy Communion.Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-633594133377596682011-04-16T20:32:45.763-04:002011-04-16T20:32:45.763-04:00Veronica,
You're letting all the evil box you...Veronica,<br /><br />You're letting all the evil box you in. Try to find a Latin Mass you can live with. Find a low Mass that is short. Or find one at a big church so you can duck out during the sermon and pray a Rosary without being noticed.<br /><br />The Good God has allowed this - no, He has sent us this punishment - so that we pray harder and work harder to make the best of it. The graces are there to let you close your ears and eyes and still hear Mass, and meditate on our suffering Lord in your heart.<br /><br />Understand that most of the bishops and priests will be burning in Hell in a few short decades. Don't take solace in that, but work all the harder to be sure that you don't join them.Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-53965558783234963692011-04-16T20:27:52.893-04:002011-04-16T20:27:52.893-04:00Thank you, Jerry.
I find many in the Church that ...Thank you, Jerry.<br /><br />I find many in the Church that are heretics and schismatics as well. In fact, some of them sit with me in the pews on Sundays and we've had a few (actually more than a few) as pastors. They may not have formally renounced their obedience to the Pope and Church doctrine, but in practice they have. <br /><br />Veronica<br /><br />P.S. At least the sedevacantists are honest in their approach unlike the SSPX who acknowledge the pope yet ignore everything he says under the guise of being faithful to "Eternal Rome"...whatever that is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-79845571275201695302011-04-16T20:18:25.300-04:002011-04-16T20:18:25.300-04:00Hi Veronica.
"Does all this mean that I can,...Hi Veronica.<br /><br />"Does all this mean that I can, in good conscience, go to a sedevacantist chapel?"<br /><br />No.<br /><br />1) They're in heresy and schism.<br />2) Their orders may be invalid because they've resorted to bishops of questionable ordination.<br />3) They don't pray for the pope in the Canon, which is a liturgical abuse not even seen in the Novus Ordo.Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-60289522421232127232011-04-16T18:14:32.420-04:002011-04-16T18:14:32.420-04:00Joe, right on about Mark Shea. A bit too arrogant...Joe, right on about Mark Shea. A bit too arrogant and big for his own britches for me.<br /><br />VeronicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com