tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post6239261003056884494..comments2024-01-09T15:49:37.273-05:00Comments on THE TENTH CRUSADE: Pathetic Theology Needs Alpha MenTTChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-70331870494332036292014-09-27T06:13:14.760-04:002014-09-27T06:13:14.760-04:00ps Irish Lassie, I miss and love you and the Irish...ps Irish Lassie, I miss and love you and the Irish lad. I would really love to see you both. Email me and lets set a time TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-69487237385707786442014-09-27T06:00:08.052-04:002014-09-27T06:00:08.052-04:00Irish anon, the letter from the Hoky see states ot...Irish anon, the letter from the Hoky see states otherwise . Even Rorate admits it is questionable whether it fulfills Sunday obligation and the Sacrament of Confession is invalid. Since when did the practice of pursuing truth and practicing it, become "stubborn"?!!!<br /><br />Steve, I try to stick with rejoicing in the truth when I hear it from a person and not get too caught up in the person itself. People are on a journey. They may fall or defect or start preaching an antigospel. Someone else will take their place and I rejoice again in God's gifts. I try not to get caught up in microscopic examinations that lead to suspicion of person.; Fr Nicholson is doing great service to Our Lord. It is ways a pleasure!TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-42645794179420101082014-09-26T20:54:36.467-04:002014-09-26T20:54:36.467-04:00the removal of Cardinal Burke is very clarifying. ...the removal of Cardinal Burke is very clarifying. I would sat that any suffering that he endures because of this will only purify him until such time when there is another conclave and all the Cardinals are so exhausted that they cannot take it anymore-- they will just not be able to stand another ounce of modernism-just one more progressive squeak will send them all over the edge - not to mention that they wont have any money left either-- and they will elect Leo Cardinal Burke as Pontifex Maximus and the restoration can begin and God will return to me the joy of my youth. fr anthony Brankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410896817198971058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-34883731531675541232014-09-26T17:15:53.238-04:002014-09-26T17:15:53.238-04:00Father, ha. Yes, I did a google. You are a sea...Father, ha. Yes, I did a google. You are a seasoned warrior. <br /><br />But come on...very wrong??? He might be exaggerating a tad but how would you feel about Joan Chittister simulating the Sacrament of Confession? It is as bad as it gets as far as I am concerned. <br /><br />Fr. Nicholson is on the team too. Go easy on him.<br /><br />How do you feel about the removal of the bishop in Paraguay for "the sake of unity" because the liberation theologists didn't get along with him?<br /><br />I bet.<br /><br />I remind you that Pope Francis calls Cardinal Kasper a great theologian and has used his appointment to promulgate heresy a d division. The man has destroyed any good will or credibility between the Pope and those who faithfully accept, practice and teach authentic theology. <br /><br />If the Pope were trying to deliberately sabotage unity, he could not do a better job. <br /><br />His Waterloo will be the removal of Cardi al Burke whereupon the only thing believers will be doing is hoping he carries through with his announcement that he too will renounce the papacy as quickly as possible.TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-25748543234757762832014-09-26T16:30:44.104-04:002014-09-26T16:30:44.104-04:00and I still think fr Nicholson is very wrong.and I still think fr Nicholson is very wrong.fr anthony Brankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410896817198971058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-28130638312069130482014-09-26T16:27:02.211-04:002014-09-26T16:27:02.211-04:00hell! I was on the team before anybody knew there ...hell! I was on the team before anybody knew there was a game goin on!fr anthony Brankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410896817198971058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-27434352399792287772014-09-26T15:46:28.043-04:002014-09-26T15:46:28.043-04:00Father, you are on the team!
No, I would not exp...Father, you are on the team! <br /><br />No, I would not expect anyone who knows our fiat to preach a heresy, even if the Pope promulgated it. That's when the real fun begins.<br /><br />But don't you agree the village idiots are then reased from culpability from the punishment from the sin and the onus goes on the pope?<br /><br />That's what I mean by stuck with it. I don't know if I could publicly lead a crusade against something bound, but I would advise all to sit it out. Like liturgical dance and communion in the hand. Teach the reasons why we just don't do it.<br /><br />Here we are talking like its a possibility.<br /><br />Thank you for coming here and giving testimony to your faith. I know everyone here is blessed by it. You have given me a heads up I need to be clearer on what I am saying on binding and loosening.<br /><br />TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-47228831999391818092014-09-26T15:17:43.239-04:002014-09-26T15:17:43.239-04:00do you think that if some authority higher than I ...do you think that if some authority higher than I am tells me not to preach about faith and morals as the Catholic church has always taught-- that I am going to pay any attention? any? I don't think so. And I will not consider myself disobedient to binding and loosing. if the competent authority tells me to preach a gospel other than the one I have received I will not preach it-- so this makes me disobedient to Christ? sorry. it does not. And the guarantee of indefectibility is joined to the teaching on infallibility which says that the Holy Spirit will prevent the pope insofar as he is the successor of saint Peter from teaching erroneously about faith or morals. <br />The church cannot teach heresy-- even if all the members of the hierarchy want to do so. God will not allow it-- if an individual pope or bishop on their own wants me to preach or teach something that is in contradiction to the tradition of the church-- I don't do it-- in fact I have a duty not to. read the story of St Athanasius. he is our model/fr anthony Brankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410896817198971058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-14448045576082331192014-09-26T12:38:10.133-04:002014-09-26T12:38:10.133-04:00Shouting matches will not reconcile the SSPX with ...Shouting matches will not reconcile the SSPX with Rome<br /><br />We need to start by praying, especially for those with whom we disagree<br /><br />By Mary O'Regan on Friday, 26 September 2014<br />Catholic Herald<br /><br />It is a cause for joy. This week Bishop Fellay met with the Prefect of the CDF Cardinal Müller for the first time since the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI. <br /><br />There has been one unacceptable development. Catholics around the globe have reacted – as though they have no part to play in the reconciliation process. <br /><br />We are wrong to place all the responsibility for reconciliation on the shoulders of the Church hierarchy and the SSPX leaders. There’s a simple test for every Catholic to see if they are helping or hindering the reconciliation. If you are a supporter of Cardinal Müller, could you pray for Bishop Fellay? Most tellingly, could you pray for the SSXP parishioners?<br /><br />If you are a supporter of Bishop Fellay, are you willing to pray for Cardinal Müller? Or, if you only attend the SSPX, could you pray for Catholics who attend the Novus Ordo exclusively?<br /><br />Perhaps the greater worldwide reconciliation between isolated Traditionalists and mainstream Catholics has to start with prayer – it will lend that essential softening of the heart. <br /><br />But for some liberal Catholics, the idea of praying for Bishop Fellay or SSXP parishioners makes them wince. For Traditionalist Catholics, I have noticed bursts on anger whenever they merely hear the name of Cardinal Müller and disgust at the idea of praying for ‘those Vatican II Catholics’. But herein is the problem. It is the same cycle of holding each other in contempt. How on earth can there be reconciliation, when we react so defensively towards each other? <br /><br />I suggest that ‘the Little Way’ of St Thérèse of Lisieux be adopted immediately, especially as her feast day is around the corner. In line with the Little Way, I would call on both sides to stop the shouting matches, the childish screams of ‘they started it’, and especially to stop compiling lists of faults that is meant to justify the position that ‘we are better than them!’<br /><br />The reconciliation process between the SSPX and Rome is not just happening in a private room at the Vatican, but inside the heart of Catholics on both sidesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-50679920224939170772014-09-26T12:08:46.944-04:002014-09-26T12:08:46.944-04:00Carol, I think you need to read this before you ge...Carol, I think you need to read this before you get too enthusiastic about Fr. Nicholson. Do you think a man who makes light of a church ceremony (the imposition of ashes) is a sound, orthodox priest? Not to me he isn't! He looks like another Fr. Corapi to me. http://remnant.com/web/index/php/fetzen/-fliegen/item/311-the curious-case-of-fr-paul-nicholsonSteve Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07365458906085087105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-47519434823712005202014-09-26T08:25:03.937-04:002014-09-26T08:25:03.937-04:00n.b. I don't believe the Pope will go so far ...n.b. I don't believe the Pope will go so far but am using as example!TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-31387076867412116342014-09-26T08:24:01.207-04:002014-09-26T08:24:01.207-04:00Canon law is his license and if he follows, I don&...Canon law is his license and if he follows, I don't see how it isn't bound to deposit of faith.<br /><br />Lets say after the synod, they do the dirty deed and publish talking points that guide priests to stop teaching contraception is prohibited. The pope sits in audience smiling like a hiena and then at the end states the theology is spectacular, conflates heresy with mercy - the usual show we have been watching now for a year and a half.<br /><br />The Jesuits run with the ball and new books are published to incorporate the nonsense. <br /><br />It isn't bound at that point. It is just the usual and customary chaos of wolves in sheeps clothing.<br /><br />But lets then say he convenes the circus of bishops we have been suffering with for decades and they re-write the Catechism to incorporate the heresy on contraception. <br /><br />How is it not bound?<br /><br />The people cannot be held accountable. The onus is on the authors an collaborators in the Holy See. <br /><br />You and I and other spiritually sane people are not going to teach it, but I don't see how we could teach agin it. The Catechism trumps us. The authority has been hijacked and misused, it is illicit, but how could you opine it is not bound?<br /><br />TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-13751140542565063222014-09-26T08:20:42.757-04:002014-09-26T08:20:42.757-04:00God Bless Ya Carol.....you sure are a stubborn Iri...God Bless Ya Carol.....you sure are a stubborn Irish Woman ( takes one to know one)��some time back my husband and I were caring for his dad in our home...he was bedridden and on a feeding tube...suffice it to say, we were on a short leash. we devoutly attend the TLM but ours was not conducive time wise so we found the Dear priests of the SSPX in our area...the duration in which we attended was not very long but these men of God are extremely holy . After my father in law passed I heard some comments that perhaps we hadn't fullfilled our Sunday obligation so I went to confession to our dear priest at the TLM in Boston and he told me to fear not that our Sunday obligation was fullfilled. God BlessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-34909704629183789722014-09-26T07:33:31.817-04:002014-09-26T07:33:31.817-04:00he cannot bind us to believe something against the...he cannot bind us to believe something against the deposit of faith. he cannot. what dio you think the indefectibility of the church means? the Holy Spirit will prevent him from teaching error. he can make silly rules and regulations and maybe bad ones but he cannot teach (bind) anyone to believe that which is false. he is prevented from doing so. it is not so much that he may not do so-- he can not do so.<br />and canon law is not part of the deposit of faith. <br />fr anthony Brankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410896817198971058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-58722229190509112562014-09-26T06:46:29.811-04:002014-09-26T06:46:29.811-04:00Father, how would we not be stuck with it??!!
I w...Father, how would we not be stuck with it??!!<br /><br />I would not followed that pied piper and would seek refuge in TLM permanently and advise others to do so, but only through Motu Proprio.<br /><br />People going to SSPX are contributing to the the defiance against Christ and His Church- of a priest! The whole thing is a tangled web that is not of God.<br /><br />If we are saddled with a Pope that binds error in our lifetime, I believe that releases the souls who commit what we know is sin from accountability. Somebody pays for the sin but its the person who caused them to sin in this scenario, if I understand theology that pertains to accountability for sin.<br /><br />We are in trouble but I don't think Pope Francis will go that far.<br /><br />TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-6939961622664747582014-09-26T05:39:08.945-04:002014-09-26T05:39:08.945-04:00Steve, I fully understand why you are cautious. Y...Steve, I fully understand why you are cautious. You and I see Opus Dei differently. Every parish has a pack of cultists but that doesn't make it the SOP. There's cults in every corner. Opus Dei is used by many to get the support of Church teaching they don't get in the parish. <br /><br />Lets not kill the prophets whom Michael and Fr Nicholson are among.TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-79003901723886581082014-09-26T01:51:42.206-04:002014-09-26T01:51:42.206-04:00Carol, I don't know if Fr. Nicholson is "...Carol, I don't know if Fr. Nicholson is "leftist" or not, but IMO, regardless of our opinions of the SSPX, we should be wary of him. He's an Opus Dei priest, and that organization has a very shady reputation for being extremely cultic. WDTPRS readers can go to www.odan.org/index.htm for some very disturbing information on this group. BTW, Michael Voris highly recommends this group. that's one reason why I stopped supporting him. As a former cult member, I can't with a good conscience, support anyone who believes a group like this is 'the work of God'.Steve Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07365458906085087105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-26803970397730313852014-09-25T23:57:25.075-04:002014-09-25T23:57:25.075-04:00Jack, glad to know you are well.
They can Transub...Jack, glad to know you are well.<br /><br />They can Transubstatiate but according to Holy See doc linked above, it doesn't fulfill Sunday obligation. <br /><br />The Sacrament of Confession is not valid nor is marriage. A half hour drive we have Motu Proprio. Why on earth would anyone bother with them ?<br /><br />To suggest Fr Nicholson is a liberal, I just can't swallow!TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-63161182412644609172014-09-25T23:15:22.351-04:002014-09-25T23:15:22.351-04:00P.S. we are NEVER stuck with anything as bound-- a...P.S. we are NEVER stuck with anything as bound-- at least if it goes against the faith. our model is saint Paul-- and he certainly never felt stuck as bound with any of Peters Judaizing .fr anthony Brankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410896817198971058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-64360460532362491202014-09-25T23:03:07.417-04:002014-09-25T23:03:07.417-04:00Jack, glad to know you are well.
They can Transub...Jack, glad to know you are well.<br /><br />They can Transubstatiate bu according to Holy See doc linked it doesn't fulfill Sunday obligation. The Sacrament of Confession is not valid nor is marriage. A half hour drive we have Motu Proprio. <br /><br />To suggest Fr Nicholson is a liberal, I just can't swallow!TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-83656110273340367022014-09-25T22:41:45.918-04:002014-09-25T22:41:45.918-04:00Father, I agree. In my example, I used a ludicrou...Father, I agree. In my example, I used a ludicrous excuse for dissolution of marriage, but if where he is going is lowering the bar of excuses and then cheapening the process to make annulments quick and easy, we are stuck with it as bound.<br /><br />He can't make polygamists access to Communion as that would be teaching he has no authority to change. But increasing excuses and changing process, I do t see how we could say he is jumped the rail. That was my point.<br /><br />I do t know what we are going to do if he jumps the rail. I don't think he will and the book the five Cardinals wrote to get ahead of Kasper kinda pulls the rug out from underneath it all.<br /><br />The statements he is making now that contradict Church teaching are not binding. They are divisive, they are disconcerting, they are passive-aggressive and very damaging. His ceedibility and trustworthyness is not recoverable. Too much water over the dam.<br />Not sure what will happen but leading to schismatics <br /> And splinter groups , priests without faculties feigning they have power to absolve sin or fulfill Sunday obligation is something I will hand to hand combat.<br /><br />TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-17970392621440299712014-09-25T21:31:18.941-04:002014-09-25T21:31:18.941-04:00Hi Carol,
I haven't commented in a while but ...Hi Carol,<br /><br />I haven't commented in a while but I read you off and on because you are a fighter for the truth.<br /><br />But I have to clarify a couple of points. First, the masses of the FSSPX are valid. Their priests are validly ordained.<br /><br />Those who argue this point should educate themselves as to the distinction between "validity" and "licitness".<br /><br />There is a dispute between pro-FSSPX and contra-FSSPX regarding the sacraments of Matrimony and Penance. This has to do with so-called "faculties" which are, according to canon law, subject to jurisdiction. In other words. the local ordinary has to allow confessions and matrimonial permission for the priest to render a valid sacrament.<br /><br />Technically, all of the FSSPX sacraments are illicit, though their masses are valid and do fulfill the Sunday and holy day requirements.<br /><br />There is a canonical dispute in the matter of supplied jurisdiction for Penance and Matrimony which I won't elaborate here. I have briefly commented on this on a recent BCI post and I don't want to rehash it here.<br /><br />At any rate, that clown of a priest, Nicholson, is not only an agent of the Devil but is, like Corapi, a hubristic fool whose downfall is imminent. Quod Deus adiuvet!<br /><br />Full disclosure: I am not a member of the FSSPX and have never attended one of their masses. In any event, the FSSPX is a <i>priestly</i> fraternity (i.e. Fraternitas sacerdotalis) and there are properly no lay members. <br /><br />As a word to the wise, I would be very circumspect in my following of Nicholson as he appears to be, shall we charitably phrase it, a bit "leftish". If you catch my drift. He probably has his own agenda driven by his orientation.<br /><br /><br />Jack O'Malleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-85413231601804164442014-09-25T20:50:19.312-04:002014-09-25T20:50:19.312-04:00The good father needs to walk this one back, way b...The good father needs to walk this one back, way back. Benedict XVI lifted the excommunication on this Society. This is not news. Their sacraments are valid except with the possibility of confession, but in that case, the person confessing would really need an intent to confess to someone thought to be "schismatic" to have it be an invalid confession. The Church "supplies" as the old Latin saying goes.<br /><br />We do not say that Episcopalians having their Sunday services are doing things worse than a Black Mass. In fact Rome constantly apologizes to them and everyone else in history for mistakes which are largely someone else's responsibility. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-1124086454888286002014-09-25T20:19:34.344-04:002014-09-25T20:19:34.344-04:00If Pope Francis reduces marriage to a contract whi...If Pope Francis reduces marriage to a contract which can be dispensed for not doing the laundry and canonically binds it - it is bound baby - no matter how damaging we know it will be to the survival of vows that are eternal. It is bound because Christ surrendered that right to Christ's Church and all we have to do is follow it to survive ourselves.<br /><br />Please Tenth Crusade--this is not what Catholics believe-- now or in the past. Binding and loosing has nothing to do with dogma-- and the catholic teaching about sacraments-- their form and matter and effect are dogma and not subject to change. They cannot be. It is about what is-- the nature and existence of a sacrament-not about what we want-Yes, the church can change the rubrics-- the church can fine tune its understanding of the form and matter-- but it cannot change the teaching about what the sacrament is. This is very clear in the catechism of the council of Trent-- or most any catholic catechism. The Church and the Pope do not bind as much as they are bound to what God has revealed-- and the form and matter of a sacrament are part of that-- no one can change it.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />fr anthony Brankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410896817198971058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1015949969530867456.post-67996594371059757452014-09-25T19:46:09.410-04:002014-09-25T19:46:09.410-04:00n.b. If you think I benefit by admitting my convi...n.b. If you think I benefit by admitting my convictions, you are mistaken. More than half of my readers are TLM attendees. Most if not all through the license granted in Motu Proprio. Still, they are most sympathetic to SSPX.<br /><br />The effect upon the soul of those they hold captive is too hard for me to take to have any respect for them at all. I hope and pray that readers are forgiving of my convictions. If they are not, I say what I say to benefit Christ and His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and I have no regrets.<br /><br />God bless you - please pray for me!TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.com