Thursday, October 7, 2010

Curt Jester's Post on the Catholic Tea Party

Jeff Miller has a post up today criticizing the name Catholic Tea Party.   LINK HERE

His criticism is that the name indicates the Catholics rising to clean out the stalls of dissent from their parishes, Catholic schools, Chanceries are somehow being bolstered, supported and led by the RNC.

I am not sure where to begin responding to that absurdity.

I certainly am not tethered to the name and am happy to accept suggestions.

Call it whatever one wishes.  I'm happy to change the name.  But the time to  stand up and take control of what we are being taught has arrived.

Some people are called to focus on their own personal holiness.  This is a beautiful vocation.  Others are called not only to focus on that journey, but to also make sure other Catholics are not being scandalized.

For instance, when we see a woman who is confusing sorcery with the Holy Spirit heading to counsel the grieving, it is righteous to intercede on behalf of 300 people who may be spiritually scandalized.

It is righteous to raise a stink  about a couple of proabortion marxists priests running a social justice conference in Boston with the full consent of the Cardinal.    We care about the 300 souls and we act on their behalf.   If you're a fan of St. Paul, he instructs us to give public warnings after you have exhausted every other venue.

Miller goes on to say he thinks the name should have "Trent" in it.  This would't work because many would assume we reject the current forms of Catechism and the validity of the Novus Ordo.

The posts in Miller's comments are something to pay attention to.

Too many times, Catholics will start a good faith effort to lead people out of their cowardice and complacency and inertia, only to be nitpicked to death by curmudgeons who do not have anything constructive to add but they go on in perpetuity whining about the state of affairs.   When somebody comes along to take a stab at doing something about it, they shift their energy to whining about minutia.

The attempt to characterize us as drunks is beneath contempt.   I know every single person in the Boston effort and there isnt a single person who abuses alcohol.  I may  have a glass of wine 4 times a year.  Years go buy when I do not even do that.

One person says they wont help just because of the name.  This is the self-defeating immaturity we have to deal with within our own ranks.

I will not be intimidated into excusing myself from commenting on politics as an American, even if I am a Catholic.  But this effort, at least in Boston, is about the right of our inheritance which is being imprisoned on every level.

Assuming Jeff doesn't have a problem with this, we are happy to take his suggestions for a name.   The  comments in his comments section should be then taken  down, wouldn't you say?

Once a name is picked out that meets with his approval, if he doesnt want to help us, the least he can do is sit down and shut up.


KD said...

Ok, ok enough semantics! The Boston Crusaders fits, let's wear it. TBC, we already have our armor, The Most Holy Rosary, St. Michael and all The Angels & Saints.

Anonymous said...

I hate the name 'tea party'.
how about;
The view from the pew
Boston Katholic watch
The peaceful militant
In service to disservice
Sean's other blog
Boston catholic remnant
Tea with Carol
Boston Catholic militant
Truth hurts, Truth heals
Boston Catholic outsider
Just trash can the Tea party thing
it is stale.

Anonymous said...

Crusaders! YAH - unfortunately it's time has come, the Crusades of 2010..

The Crusades were a series of religiously sanctioned military campaigns waged by much of Western Christian Europe, particularly the Franks of France and the Holy Roman Empire. The specific crusades to restore Christian control of the Holy Land were fought over a period of nearly 200 years, between 1095 and 1291. Other campaigns in Spain and Eastern Europe continued into the 15th century. The Crusades were fought mainly by Roman Catholic forces (taking place after the East-West Schism and mostly before the Protestant Reformation) against Muslims who had occupied the near east since the time of the Rashidun Caliphate, although campaigns were also waged against pagan Slavs, pagan Balts, Jews, Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians, Mongols, Cathars, Hussites, Waldensians, Old Prussians, and political enemies of the various popes.[1][page needed] Orthodox Christians also took part in fighting against Islamic forces in some Crusades. Crusaders took vows and were granted penance for past sins, often called an indulgence.[1][page needed][2][page needed]

The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule and their campaigns were launched in response to a call from the Christian Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuk Turks into Anatolia. The term is also used to describe contemporaneous and subsequent campaigns conducted through to the 16th century in territories outside the Levant[3] usually against pagans, heretics, and peoples under the ban of excommunication[4] for a mixture of religious, economic, and political reasons.[5] Rivalries among both Christian and Muslim powers led also to alliances between religious factions against their opponents, such as the Christian alliance with the Sultanate of Rum during the Fifth Crusade.

The Crusades had far-reaching political, economic, and social impacts, some of which have lasted into contemporary times. Because of internal conflicts among Christian kingdoms and political powers, some of the crusade expeditions were diverted from their original aim, such as the Fourth Crusade, which resulted in the sack of Christian Constantinople and the partition of the Byzantine Empire between Venice and the Crusaders. The Sixth Crusade was the first crusade to set sail without the official blessing of the Pope.[6] The Seventh, Eighth and Ninth Crusades resulted in Mamluk and Hafsid victories, as the Ninth Crusade marked the end of the Crusades in the Middle East.[7]

Anonymous said...

The Tenth Crusade

Anonymous said...

I don't have a suggestion for a name, but I agree that "Tea Party" maybe unwise to use. Too much room for misunderstanding.

Anonymous said...

"Throw the Bums Out" with no year.

TTC said...

Thanks for the comments and emails. I hear and am praying about it. Michael Voris has picked up the meme but I hear the concerns.

I love some of these creative suggestions.

I think somebody tried. To use the name crusades a short while ago and there was a kerfuffle about that too. I will do some research but I think people got wigged out about being characterized as a violent movement.

More later.

Anonymous said...

To hell with the snotty liberals. I like the Boston Catholic tea party.


paramedicgirl said...

I don't have any name suggestions; just want you to know that I like what you are doing! Keep following Saint Paul's example and issue these public warnings. We need to know about these things in order to apply pressure to get our bishops back on the right track.

TTC said...

Thanks to all!

The Tenth Crusade it is (though I will probably change up the description when I can give it a little more thought)

kd said...

The Tenth Crusade sounds great! It didn't just start in Boston as we see from all the comments on your blog..
God Bless!

CDB said...

I wonder if B16 will approve of this new crusade, since only a Pope can call one...

TTC said...

It is just a way to characterize the new springtime of the Church. It was approved with the water of our baptism, and set on fire with the oil on our day of Confirmation, fed by the power of the Sacraments.

Lighten up there dude. Or.. get some heavy duty foil for your tin foil hat!