Very, very interesting remarks from Pope Francis on outwardly expressed praise and joy for Our Lord.
It isn't just for the Charistmatics.
I start and end my workday with Worship and Praise. Throughout the day in the lull. I praise our Lord in the quiet prayer during the Holy Sacrifice. At Adoration.
Let us face it. TTC readers are lovers of the intimacy in the substance of the Sacraments.
Rock music and liturgical dancing at the intimacy of souls going on at a Holy Sacrifice is about as useful to us as a ten piece orchestra in our bedrooms.
We come to dissolve into Christ and that act of intimate dissolution into the Soul of Christ can only be reached through mystical prayer.
This is a world that doesn't exist to majority of charismatics. I get wigged out when the noise is so loud at the Holy Sacrifice that I can't concentrate on the mystical prayer that takes me to the place where I dissolve into Christ.
Wrong time. Wrong place.
I have a better idea.
Why not blast the rock music while these same folks are sitting in a hot room on their yoga mats trying to connect with themselves and leave those of us trying to connect our souls to God alone?
I was particularly struck by this:
“I wonder sometimes how many times we despise good people in our hearts, good people who praise the Lord as it comes to them, so spontaneously, because they are not cultured, because they do not follow the formalities? [I mean really] despise [them]?
Oh come on!
I'm amazed by the ability of the Holy Father to exaggerate and understate, all at the same time!
Perhaps he's feeling a little sensitive over the criticism of his puppet Masses. LOL.
In some ways, I understand what Pope Francis is saying. I have come to see the charismatics as newlyweds in the throes of passion with our Lord. I love their praise and worship outside of the Liturgy, sharing our fire. I avoid the Liturgies (I deliberately go to the 7:30am Mass to avoid the hoohas) but if I am stuck with that timing, I prepare myself for missing the real passion and intimacy with Christ for Communion at a lower level of intensity with Christ. I used to feel robbed. But I know that The company of Christ's newlyweds pleases Him, and I can observe it with appreciation.
Easier said than done.
Let's make a deal.
Issue an edict for one Latin Mass every Sunday every 40 miles, burn the puppets, genuflect at Consecration, have the theologically correct Corpus of Christ on the Cross at Papal Masses and we'll try to be a little more patient!
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I like the deal concept, I'll settle for that.
Me too Richard.
Think about it, they could strip all the religious meaning out of their parishes, obstruct and contradict Church teaching, sing and dance to their ditties.
Meanwhile, we take our families to parishes where the tools for salvation and sanctification are free from their tyranny and bullying.
Just give us our refuges for our families and loved ones and they can build their rolling stone rock and roll parishes from here to kingdom come.
i WAS READING A STATEMENT BY
THE POPE IN TODAY'S MAGNIFICATE.
HE SEEMS ALWAYS TO BE SAYING 'LETS GET GOING' BUT DOES NOT SEEM TO FOCUS ON WHAT DIRECTION.
40 miles?! I drive past 10 - 20 half-empty churches on my 30-mile drive to the TLM every Sunday (except when it snows or the roads are icy).
How about 10 miles?
TTC: Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!!
The whole agenda behind the Charasmatic Movement was to oust the Latin Mass, just cannot co-exists.
Think about it...
A Conquered People
The Catholic historian Dr. John Rao observed that throughout history, a conquered people will often take on the characteristics of their conquerors. [18] A more apt description of "Catholic-Pentecostalism" could not be formulated. Charismatics are a conquered people who have surrendered their priceless, God-given heritage while dancing on the graves of their Catholic ancestors in giddy imitation of Protestant practice. [19]
The Pentecostalism and ecumenism presently gripping our Holy Church could be nicknamed "Luther's Conquest." It is not only our duty to resist it, but also to beseech Heaven on behalf of the "Catholic Charismatic" who prays with his hands in the air and his foot on the throat of traditional Catholic doctrine and practice.
Pope Francis, Nov. 2013-"Saint Teresa of the Child Jesus would say that she had always to stop herself before the spirit of curiosity," he said. "When she spoke with another sister and this sister was telling a story about the family, about people, sometimes the subject would change, and she would want to know the end of the story. But she felt that this was not the spirit of God, because it was a spirit of dispersion, of curiosity. The Kingdom of God is among us: do not seek strange things, do not seek novelties with this worldly curiosity. Let us allow the Spirit to lead us forward in that wisdom, which is like a soft breeze," he said. "This is the Spirit of the Kingdom of God, of which Jesus speaks. So be it".
Hmm, seems to speak with folk tongue..
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The Pope is on the money about the below - so long as we are talking about a discussion of trivia or gossip - or in this context deliberately attempting to acquire (or feigning) spiritual gifts not freely equipped from God.
Knowing a child is being abused or hurt, learning priests or teachers are re-setting moral compasses to zero with their insidious agendas -- the failure to pursue a remedy for the victims of such abuse is a vice, not a virtue.
Pope Francis, Nov. 2013-"Saint Teresa of the Child Jesus would say that she had always to stop herself before the spirit of curiosity," he said. "When she spoke with another sister and this sister was telling a story about the family, about people, sometimes the subject would change, and she would want to know the end of the story. But she felt that this was not the spirit of God, because it was a spirit of dispersion, of curiosity. The Kingdom of God is among us: do not seek strange things, do not seek novelties with this worldly curiosity. Let us allow the Spirit to lead us forward in that wisdom, which is like a soft breeze," he said. "This is the Spirit of the Kingdom of God, of which Jesus speaks. So be it".
Peter, make a mess.
I have no use for this holy roller foolishness. This 'speaking in tongues' stuff is nothing but a bunch of adults acting like kids, babbling nonsense that have no meaning in any known language. If the Pope and the bishops had any regard for the true traditions of the Church, they would denounce and forbid this Asian Carp, Protestant heresy to exist in the Catholic Church period!
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