Sunday, July 27, 2014

In new interview, Pope Francis caricatures Communism as Christianity.

The Pope has put himself into the spotlight again with another "interview" and the first reports indicate it is another doozy.

The oppressive, immoral, atheist political science whose goal includes apartheid of Christianity helps poor people he said, and so that makes it Christian.

This reminds me of grammar school at St Mark's when the class clown would hijack a lesson by yelling out something he thought was clever or funny.

There was no need for the mass tranquilization of children with Ritalin when the nuns were allowed to pull them out of class by the shirt and tell them to knock it off.

I saw the pic of Pope Frank tooling around in the cafeteria with workmen wearing blue shirts.

I could imagine myself in that predicament... thinking to myself "on no, here he comes".

How long do you think I'd last before I would say, "Begging the pardon of His Holiness, while I'd love to sit and shoot the breeze, every time I see your face I'm reminded of my children and the people I love who now think the principles of Catholic moral theology are only followed by kooks on the fringe - so I'm going to mosey on over to another table to each my tuna sandwich and chips. Pray for me and have a great day. "

Before its over,I wouldn't be surprised to see pics on instagram of him coming out for morning coffee in his robe and slippers without his dentures.

You know, the regular schmoe code of conduct for future men elected to chair of Peter.

Reports are beginning to surface on the agenda for the Synod. If they are accurate, in the chaos of Captain Quigg worrying about the strawberries, the City of Rome has been hijacked by madmen.

The tailspin from the alleged proposed theologically asinine agenda will be irreversible. We ain't seen nuttin yet.

We just ain't seen nuttin yet.

The real pity is watching the nightmare unfold and realizing there isn't a single person in Rome who has the courage to yank him out by the shirt and tell him to knock it off.

UPDATE: The consistent and disturbing theological message from Pope Francis should be recognized in this outstanding article on "the fundamental option" which (evidently) grew out of the theological turmoil following "Vatican II".

Fundamental option separates specific moral actions from a more general – fundamental – orientation of life. It holds, therefore, that specific sins do not bear on the status of one’s soul, or on the destination of one’s soul after death. All that matters for salvation, in this view, is that one “fundamentally” lives for God rather than evil.

This is precisely what our loved ones are regurgitating from Pope Francis jumbled messages.

The author does a great job quoting St. John Paul II condemnation of 'the fundamental option'.

With every freely committed mortal sin, he offends God as the giver of the law and as a result becomes guilty with regard to the entire law (cf. Jas 2:8-11); even if he perseveres in faith, he loses sanctifying grace, charity and eternal happiness.

I had never heard of 'fundamental option' before, but instinctively recognized the problems in the execution of judgment and spiritual practices each time Pope Francis invites journalists to publish his thoughts and remarks.

The author also articulates, I think succintly, the same thoughts and questions I have - we all have:

The sheer menace of fundamental option and its patent disregard of Church teaching spark some pressing questions. What would possess someone who should know better to teach this most dangerous and most destructive distortion? What benefit does the teacher gain by proffering a bogus path to salvation? Surely he knows that he himself will not be the arbiter of his students’ eternal fates. Why, then, teach his own theory of salvation when he could teach the means taught directly by the Judge Himself?

11 comments:

Unknown said...

The Reuters article to which you link is from JUNE and shouldn't be understood as if it refers to what MIGHT be published today.

It's okay to be nervous about what might be said today. It might very well be worse than what was said a month ago. But Sunday, JUNE 29 is not Sunday, July 27.

TTC said...

Thanks for clarifying. Are you up for a volunteer job on a blog? :)

Today's interview never came out...I think!

Anonymous said...

Pope Francis had another interview, published July 27th in the Argentine review "Viva." Nothing in English has yet been published, nor is the complete Spanish text available. A Google traslation of a Spanish article yields the following:

"Pope Francis’ Ten Tips for Happiness" www.infobae.com/2014/07/27/1583452-diez-consejos-del-papa-francisco-ser-feliz

1) Live and let live. "Here the Romans might have said and take it like a thread to pull the formula that says: 'Go ahead and let people go ahead' live and let live is the first step peace and happiness. "



2) Join others . "If you are tight, you run the risk of being selfish. Standing water and is the first to be corrupted"



3) Move respectfully. "In Don Segundo Sombra is a very beautiful thing, someone who rereads his life Performer Says Young was a rocky stream that had everything ahead,.. than adult was a river who was later and in old age he was moving, but slowly dammed. I use this poet and novelist Georges Braque image, that last adjective I dammed.'s ability to move with benevolence and humility, the haven of life. Elders have that wisdom, are the memory of a people. And a people who do not care for their elderly has no future. "



4) Play with the kids. "Consumerism took us to the anxiety of losing healthy leisure culture, read, enjoy some art now confess, but confessed Buenos Aires much and there came a young mother asked him. '? many children do you have? Jugas with your children? ' And it was a question that was not expected, but I told him to play with the kids is key, is a healthy culture.'s Hard, the parents go to work early and return to times when your children are asleep, it is difficult, but there I do it. "



5) Share on Sundays with family . "The other day, in Campobasso, went to a meeting between the world of college and the working world, I demanding all nonworking Sunday. Sunday is family."



6) Help young people to find employment. "We have to be creative with this strip. If missing opportunities fall into drugs. Y is very high suicide rate among young people without work. The other day I read, but not me trust that is not a scientific fact, which had 75 million young people below 25 years for unemployed is not enough to feed them.. should inventarles year courses plumber, electrician, sewing Dignity gives you the carry bread home. "


7) Take care of nature. "We have to care for creation and we are not doing. It's one of the biggest challenges we have."


8) Forget faster than negative. "The need to speak ill of another indicates low self-esteem, ie. I feel so down instead of up, under the other faster than negative Forgetting is healthy."


9) Respect those who think differently. "We can worry the other from the testimony, that both progress in this communication, but the worst thing you can have is the religious proselytism, which paralyzes. 'I dialogue with you to convince', not every one dialogue from his identity. The Church grows by attraction, not proselytism. "


10) Actively seek peace. "We are living in a time of great war. In Africa seem to tribal wars, but they are something else. War destroys. And the clamor for peace need to shout. Peace sometimes gives the idea of quiet, but it is never quiet, always an active peace. "

His Holiness also said, "The Nobel Peace Prize is a topic that does not fit in my schedule"

Anonymous said...

I HERBY RESPECTFULLY ASK THE POPE AND THE CARDINAL FOR THE IMMEDIATE EXCOMMUNICATION AND DEFROCKING OF ALL COMMUNISTS, FREEMASONS, AND SATANISTS FROM THE HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.


ALL SECRETS OF FATIMA REVEALED IMMEDIATELY.

Thank you so much !

p.s. Please bull-doze the Taj Mahoney --- see the utube showing the inside of this demonic abomination - it is more shocking than the outside.

Anonymous said...

I'll wait to be totally flummoxed with his latest charades game when a proper translation occurs, but if the above is even remotely accurate then all his words amount to is a bucket of warm spit. I could get similar "folk wisdom" from my local village idiot or town drunk.

I expect something more substantially Catholic from my clerics.

Anonymous said...

Here it is "from the horse's mouth" http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/07/28/pope_francis_gives_interview_to_argentinian_newspaper/1103580

Pope Francis gives interview to Argentinian newspaper

(Vatican Radio) To mark the first 500 days of the pontificate of Pope Francis, the Argentinian weekly “Viva” (a supplement of the newspaper El Clarín) on Sunday published the first excerpts of an interview with Pope Francis conducted earlier this month.

Pope Francis reflected on many things - including his memories of his youth, social issues such as immigration, and even the secret of happiness.

“The Romans have a saying, which can be taken as a point of reference, they say: ‘Campa e lascia campà’ …live and let live,” said Pope Francis. “That’s the first step to peace and happiness.”

He mentioned the Argentine novel "Don Segundo Sombra," written by Ricardo Güiraldes.

"In 'Don Segundo Sombra' there is a very beautiful thing, a man who looks back on his life. He says that in youth he was a rocky stream that carried everything ahead; As an adult, he was a running river, and that in old age, he felt movement, but it was ‘”remansado” [dammed; ie slowed, quiet]. I would use this image of the poet and novelist Ricardo Güiraldes, the last adjective “remansado”. The ability to move with kindness and humility, calmness of life," said the Pope.

He also mentioned the importance of leisure: reading, art, playing with children. Pope Francis said when he was in Buenos Aires, he would often ask young mothers how often they play with their children.

“It was an unexpected question,” he said. “It is hard. The parents go to work and come back when the children are asleep.”

Pope Francis also said Sundays should be shared with the family, noting that when he visited Campobasso, the workers did not want to work on Sundays.

Speaking about young people, the Holy Father said ways needed to be found to help them find work, noting lack of opportunities can lead to people falling into drug use, or even lead to suicide.

“I read the other day, but I do not telegraph it as a scientific fact, that there were 75 million young people under the age of 25 unemployed,” he said. The Pope suggested the youth could be taught skilled work, which would allow them the “dignity of bringing home the bacon.”

He also spoke to the newspaper about the international situation, including the increasing number of conflicts and wars across the globe.

“War destroys,” said Pope Francis. “And we must shout out for peace. Peace sometimes gives the idea of quietness, but it is not quiet, it is always an active peace.”

The Holy Father also spoke about those fleeing the horrors of war and other calamities, and how many countries are not generous in helping refugees. He said Europe fears speaking about immigration, but he praised Sweden for its policies, noting that despite their small population, they have allowed in hundreds of thousands of immigrants.

The Pope also spoke about environmental issues, and how mankind continues to waste the bounty given by God.

"When, for example, you want to make use of a mining method that extracts more than other methods, but it contaminates the water, it doesn’t matter,” he said. “And so they go on contaminating nature. I think it's a question that we do not face: humanity, in the indiscriminate use and tyranny over nature, is it committing suicide?"

In the interview, the Pope also reiterated the Church grows by attraction, not proselytizing.

“The worst thing you can do is religious proselytizing, which paralyzes,” he said.

When asked by the interviewer about the possibility of winning a Nobel Prize, Pope Francis said he had not considered it, but added the pursuit of awards and doctorates were not part of his agenda.

Anonymous said...

Here it is "from the horse's mouth" http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/07/28/pope_francis_gives_interview_to_argentinian_newspaper/1103580

Pope Francis gives interview to Argentinian newspaper

(Vatican Radio) To mark the first 500 days of the pontificate of Pope Francis, the Argentinian weekly “Viva” (a supplement of the newspaper El Clarín) on Sunday published the first excerpts of an interview with Pope Francis conducted earlier this month.

Pope Francis reflected on many things - including his memories of his youth, social issues such as immigration, and even the secret of happiness.

“The Romans have a saying, which can be taken as a point of reference, they say: ‘Campa e lascia campà’ …live and let live,” said Pope Francis. “That’s the first step to peace and happiness.”

He mentioned the Argentine novel "Don Segundo Sombra," written by Ricardo Güiraldes.

"In 'Don Segundo Sombra' there is a very beautiful thing, a man who looks back on his life. He says that in youth he was a rocky stream that carried everything ahead; As an adult, he was a running river, and that in old age, he felt movement, but it was ‘”remansado” [dammed; ie slowed, quiet]. I would use this image of the poet and novelist Ricardo Güiraldes, the last adjective “remansado”. The ability to move with kindness and humility, calmness of life," said the Pope.

He also mentioned the importance of leisure: reading, art, playing with children. Pope Francis said when he was in Buenos Aires, he would often ask young mothers how often they play with their children.

“It was an unexpected question,” he said. “It is hard. The parents go to work and come back when the children are asleep.”

Pope Francis also said Sundays should be shared with the family, noting that when he visited Campobasso, the workers did not want to work on Sundays.

Speaking about young people, the Holy Father said ways needed to be found to help them find work, noting lack of opportunities can lead to people falling into drug use, or even lead to suicide.

“I read the other day, but I do not telegraph it as a scientific fact, that there were 75 million young people under the age of 25 unemployed,” he said. The Pope suggested the youth could be taught skilled work, which would allow them the “dignity of bringing home the bacon.”

He also spoke to the newspaper about the international situation, including the increasing number of conflicts and wars across the globe.

“War destroys,” said Pope Francis. “And we must shout out for peace. Peace sometimes gives the idea of quietness, but it is not quiet, it is always an active peace.”

The Holy Father also spoke about those fleeing the horrors of war and other calamities, and how many countries are not generous in helping refugees. He said Europe fears speaking about immigration, but he praised Sweden for its policies, noting that despite their small population, they have allowed in hundreds of thousands of immigrants.

The Pope also spoke about environmental issues, and how mankind continues to waste the bounty given by God.

"When, for example, you want to make use of a mining method that extracts more than other methods, but it contaminates the water, it doesn’t matter,” he said. “And so they go on contaminating nature. I think it's a question that we do not face: humanity, in the indiscriminate use and tyranny over nature, is it committing suicide?"

In the interview, the Pope also reiterated the Church grows by attraction, not proselytizing.

“The worst thing you can do is religious proselytizing, which paralyzes,” he said.

When asked by the interviewer about the possibility of winning a Nobel Prize, Pope Francis said he had not considered it, but added the pursuit of awards and doctorates were not part of his agenda.

Hesketh said...

Dalai Frankie. He should have taken the name Pope Oprah.

TTC said...



The ten live and let live suggestions finally made it to the Vatican website. Goodbye Ten Commandments.

I heard liturgical dance was dropped from the list at the last minute.

TTC said...

Folk wisdom, LOL, did that ever strike the right chord!

TTC said...

Dilali Frankie! Too funny.

Frankathon Livingston Seagull.