Monday, October 9, 2017

Pope Francis Amoris Laetitia Circus Rolled into Boston College

Fr. Z has a great description:

One thing that emerged is that they are pushing the primacy of “experience”.  This means that if your experience prompts you to do X, well, that must be okay even though the Church teaches that X might even be intrinsically evil.  Your “experience” authorizes you to do X.  Furthermore, the clergy’s role must then be to affirm your choice and accompany you as you pursue it.  I think I got that right.

No doubt this will be a breath of fresh air to murdering cannibals.

This is the logic the Roman lavender mafia also used with pedophile priests. How'd that work out for them?

Be sure not to read the Pope Francis screwball talking points of 'accompaniment' before your morning coffee (Fr. Z's comments in red):

Natalia Imperatori-Lee, a theologian at Manhattan College, said Latino reception of Amoris Laetitia “cannot be understood” outside the historical legacy of the colonial system in the Americas. “

She also said:

Imperatori-Lee said that in Francis’ call for better respect of decisions laypeople make in their lives, Latinos see the pope “pointing to the infantilization of laypeople and families that is so commonly a feature of colonization.” [colonization?]

“The infantilization of the laity has its historical roots in a view of laypeople as objects of clerical control: pay, pray and obey, or as Pius X notes in [the 1906 encyclical] Vehementer Nos, ‘the right of the laity is to allow itself to be led,’ ” she said.

Imperatori-Lee said Francis, however, sees the family as “the protagonist of its own destiny.”
“Couples become the subjects of their history, even as pastors and confessors retain a role of accompaniment and listening,” she said.

I’m pretty sure that this is code for: You don’t have to listen to the Church if you don’t want to.
"The replacement of conscience is an act of domination, again colonization,” she said, paraphrasing Peruvian theologian Gregorio Pérez. [I wonder what theological school he could be aligned with.] “It is an abuse of power. The formation of conscience, on the other hand, is life-giving ministry.” [I’m not quite sure who that Gregorio Pérez is, but I suspect it could be this guy.]
Manuel Pérez Martínez (May 9, 1943 – 1998), also known as "El Cura Pérez" ("Pérez the Priest"), was leader of the Colombian National Liberation Army (ELN) over three decades.
Born on May 9, 1943 in Alfamén, Spain, Pérez was originally a priest, and worked in Spain, France, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic. Following his expulsion from the Dominican Republic in 1968 he went to Colombia, and in 1969 joined the ELN. He became that group's leader some time in the 1970s and remained so until his death in 1998 from hepatitis B.
Pérez was considered an extremist; one former guerrilla described him as "rigid and brutal".[1] His leadership is thought to have significantly affected the ELN's ideology (Cuban-style Marxism and liberation theology) and methods (which led to accusations of kidnapping, torture, and execution).

Unbelievable.  This crowd is gaga for murdering dictators who pass out free cheese.

Here is another rocket scientist who threw her two cents in:

Cathleen Kaveny, a theologian and civil lawyer at Boston College, spoke about how the church considers people who have been divorced and remarried without first obtaining annulments.

Kaveny used her dual professional background to examine how the church might turn to U.S. civil law as a resource for a re-evaluation of how it sees remarriage as a continuing kind of adultery.  [US civil law as resource… Does that mean theological locus?  What about laws that permit abortion?  Aren’t there still some sodomy laws on the books?  What about the Ohio law that it is illegal for five women to live in the same house?]

I bet she has a horse in that race. In what world is this woman a 'theologian'?

Mind boggling.

And of course the Holy Father's commissioning of this Roman nitwit gives license for him to fly into Boston College to give the Pope's assent to everything this group of picadors said. He explained that it is now possible to build Sanctifying Grace from living in a perpetual state of mortal sin because Pope Francis has flushed moral theology down the toilet.

"It is no longer possible to judge people on the basis of a norm that stands above all," he concluded.

For the life of me, I cannot imagine being so numbskulled that I could plant my butt in a chair and intellectually consent to this lunatic drivel.

The stupidity surrounding us is painful.

All that needs to be said about any of this can be rationalized from the following quote I found (and stole) from Angelqueen. It was a response to a post on Fr. Martin, but it's applicable to every addiction to vice and sin:

There is no such thing as an LGBTQ theologian, or philosopher. Those enslaved to aberrant passions or other irrational lusts are incompetent to reason to the truth, from the simple fact that they hate truth because it militates against their enslavement, which they don’t actually love, but think they love, simply because they think it is “who they are” (which it isn’t, of course).

And the totally arbitrary, self-referential, often utterly unintelligible ravings of this narcissistic pervert Cheng are an example.

This kind of thing makes one see the wisdom of God in creating a hell.

Thank God the Almighty the bishop of the see was out of town.


TLM said...

"The stupidity surrounding us is painful.".....Indeed, SIN makes one STUPID. I would say especially ongoing grave sin. The problem we have is trying to stay in the boat when the boat is well on its way to sinking. (Benedict hit that nail on the head) These clerics and 'theologians' are trying to put into place a religion that not only doesn't have anything to do with Catholicism, but is basically paganism, or maybe 'humanism' better describes it. When you have protestant theologians slamming the Pope for his 'heresies' you know we are in deep doo doo with this guy that is sitting in the Chair of Peter.'s tempting to think our problems will be at least lessened when he isn't the Pope anymore and there is a new conclave. Well.....just take a look at the pool of Bishops they have to choose from. (really depressing) We may be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Divine intervention is the only way out of this mess.

Brian Walsh said...

I don't know what is funnier: that this person decides, from her cloistered little world in academia that she gets to speak for the entire Latino community or that people don't understand what their marriage vows meant but they grasp that they are being infantilized via colonization by white people.

Nothing is more humorous than when people who think they are smart and think you are stupid say things that they think other people who think of themselves as smart will think is profound but which the assuredly idiotic people see for the buffoonery that it is. In other words, the moment one thinks of himself as smart, he should reassess himself IMMEDIATELY.

Anonymous said...

My experience is that Catholicism encourages and supports the destruction of marriage, faithful spouses and intact families and I can demonstrate it.

Anyone looking to the Catholic Church for support in basic human decency is wasting their time.


S said...

I would only add 'since Vatican 2'