When Obama adds fifty million more people to the healthcare system, it will cost us less money than it does now and in fact, at the breaking point, healtchcare will start "paying for itself".
That's amazing.
When they buy a new MRI machine and twenty or so million more people get referred to use it, the machine will pay for itself.
Must be another brainchild of Barney Frank's? Everyone will just stop paying for things they buy and the wizards will come up with another stimulus package to write off the debt. Nobody will remember Joe Biden's acknowledgment that they were way off on their projections in the housing fix, will they?
In any event, they've got this figured out. It's going to cost a trillion dollars in the first ten years to take on 50 million more people. Somewhere there's a pot of money being wasted.
I shouldn't say figured out. It's all conjecture - but, they'll find it, don't you worry. The medical supply companies and drug companies and doctors will forfeit their profits. Something like that.
What Congress is debating with increasing intensity, up against Obama's hope of getting both houses of Congress to pass a measure before their August recess, is how to cover this $1 trillion price tag. Opponents of the emerging plans were emboldened last week by a report from the Congressional Budget Office that showed the plans would not accomplish their stated goal of significantly reducing federal health spending. However, the plans that Congress handed Douglas Elmendorf, the head of the CBO, have yet to include some of the bolder proposals that will curb costs.
Finding any savings to pay for the reforms is bound to anger someone, which is why Congress has yet to confront all the details about where to cut. "Waste is income for other people," says Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington. "When you find the waste -- and there's much, clearly -- that's all income for someone, whether it's the drug companies, the medical supply industry, doctors who might be paid too much for some procedures. Every single one has someone behind it who will fight to their last breath to keep Congress from taking them away."
Educated people know where they'll find "waste". Like every other reformation of healthcare in every other country, "waste" is rationing health care. Your mother has stage III cancer - they're not going to waste resources to treat her - at 62, she could be a goner. Your baby is born at 34 weeks and needs neonatal care? Sorry, not wasting resources.
Obama Administration officials are saying it in every way there is to say it and the mainstream media is not paying attention.
In his speech to the American Medical Association, President Obama said what White House health advisor Ezekiel Emanuel and Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag have said in print some time ago. The only way to control health care costs is to get doctors to provide less care — fewer tests, fewer procedures, fewer everything. Of course, the Administration wants to eliminate only that care that is "unnecessary.
Clearly the Administration does not consider doctors the best judge of what people need. The obvious end game: Washington will tell doctors how to practice medicine....If health care is to be rationed, what's the right way to do it? Zeke Emanuel (who is also the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel) wrote an entire article on this subject in the Lancet on January 31, 2009. Emanuel advocated allocating health resources in order to maximize collective life years. Suppose a 25-year-old and a 65-year-old have a life threatening disease. Since the 25-year-old has many more potential years of life ahead of him, he should receive preferential treatment, says Emanuel. He justifies denying care to elderly patients in the following way:
There's more. In a different article written more than 10 years ago for the Hastings Center Report, Emanuel said health services should not be guaranteed to "individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens." He continues, "An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia."The complete lives system discriminates against older people…. Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years.
After an internal squabble that fractured the American Medical Association, doctors have started to publicly mobilize against it.
Some doctors charge the bill will lead to inferior patient care as physician offices around the country triple their patient lists and become forced to ration care.
"This is war," Dr. George Watson, a Kansas physician and president-elect of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, told FOXNews.com Thursday. "This is a bureaucratic boondoggle to grab control of health care. Everything that has been proposed in the 1,018 page bill will contribute to the ruination of medicine."
Abortion is starting to be a tar baby for advancing socialized medicine.
...another group of Democrats and Republicans held a news conference Wednesday to call for an explicit ban on funding.
They're not ruling it out, they're not ruling it in, they think medical doctors should determine it - but the President doesn't want abortions covered. Noooooo. So if abortion shows up in the package, just remember that it wasn't Obama's idea, somebody else made THAT decision.
For those who enjoy intellectual dishonesty, there's a good debunking of Obama's magical and free healthcare here, written by Bobby Jindal along with some common sense guidelines and principles in a reformation.
Should be an interesting few weeks as the push goes on before summer recess. If we don't pass his healthcare reform package, it will be Helter Skelter.
Give us a break.
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Let me make one or two comments. In the majority no one wants to die. Something inside of us is scared. No one will have the moxie to say this procedure is not insured. Civil rights will protect the illegal immigrants, you will not be allowed to question identities. It will be used by socialists to gain votes and other expenses will soar under a socialist agenda. Just imagine how crowded the hospitals will be when those without present insurance turn up for very expensive procedures and will replace even delay that is those already under treatment. Do you think I m wrong look at the British and the Canadian Medical systems. Who ever comes gets treatment even if they are only tourists or refugees who come only for treatment and the government will not say no.
Look at Montreal and the unpaid gynecological bills. look at Canada with transplants for heart patients who were comfortable in their own countries literally yesterday before they boarded the plane and are no insured in theie native countries. America you cant afford it unless you have leaders who say this is the basic treatment all else you have to ay. That all this is before dental care, drug addicts and mental treatments.
Excuse me I forgot when expenses become a bottom line then euthanasia through overdoses of morphia for pain and dehydration that is to write on the chart do not resucitate and the old person of no use to the world taking up expensive hospital space is normal. See the conditions in England Holland and Canada. May articles on the Internet of course you will find rapid fervent denials too.
http://www.christianorder.com/features/features_2009/features_may09.html
another read about the problems of profit and expense in the Health system. Read again about dehydration and its use in medical insurance
http://www.christianorder.com/editorials/editorials_2009/editorials_may09.html
http://blog.acton.org/archives/2220-Will-Socialized-Health-Care-in-the-US-Kill-Canadians.html
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