Frankly, I'm a little astounded.
While it comes as no surprise that Commonweal is theologically unsound, I am taken back by their lack of charity, how frank they are about their opposition to Catholic teaching and their misunderstanding about the purpose of our apostolate.
“We’re no more engaged in a witch hunt than a doctor excising a cancer is engaged in a witch hunt,” said Michael Voris of RealCatholicTV.com and St. Michael’s Media.
I’m sure that Voris would reassure us that, really and truly, he loves those he’d like to see excised.
We don't want to see people 'excised', we simply want to hand you different material to teach so that those teaching and those being tutored are invited to Paradise.
Isn't it time to stop making what we are doing nefarious?
What we're doing is the purpose of the Catholic Church's existence.
From the Times article — note the unqualified descriptions of the two camps: “fellow orthodox Catholics”, “the more positive side of the orthodox Catholic blogosphere”, “faithful Catholics”, “unfaithful Catholics”
The acceptance of these terms by the NYT and others as accurate descriptions of conservatives and liberal Catholics needs to be scotched. The basic issue between the two camps is this very question: what IS an orthodox, faithful Catholic...At the very least such conservatives should be called “self-styled orthodox Catholics” or some equivalent term.
Getting hung up on labels here. How about calling us Catholics returning to ensuring what is inside of the Catechism of the Catholic Church is taught to Catholics faithfully?
In addition, I think this is related to the “smaller, purer church” debate. Will fine distinctions about what the pope said and didn’t say convince those who have put up a whole blog devoted to attacking Bryan Hehir?.
It also goes to why anyone should stay in the church. I think we can’t avoid the question whether the fine distinctions are merely the fine distinctions of dusty theological books–the church of an educated person in his or her head, but not at all related to what’s on the ground?...
But I don’t think there will be divisions–I think Peter Steinfel’s article shows what will happen–mass exodus."It also goes to why anyone should stay in the church..can't avoid the question whether the fine distinctions are merely the fine distinctions of dusty theological books--the church of an educated person in his or her head.."
I responded to Peter Steinfel's article here but it bears repeating in this thread.
Making Catholic Churches places where priests have to keep people away from the teachings of the Church so they can feel good about themselves is the antithesis of the Catholic Church. It is a complete waste of Christ's Suffering and Death so we could have the Catholic Church and her Sacraments to work towards our salvation. IF we wanted to.
Holding the 'dusty theological books' and the salvation of the Church hostage with threats by people who say they will flee if we proclaim what is in them is precisely what we have had enough of.
This one speaks for itself. They will know they are Christians by their love.
I'm skipping over all the daggers drawn against a list of Catholics who want the Catechism taught.
Along with other uncharitable remarks, apparently Cathleen Kaveny called Amy Welborn a 7th grader, which she promptly removed but not before Welborn got wind of it and responded.
They seem to have the pins for Wellborn and accuse her of inciting mockery of people who bring human sized puppets, liturgical dance and other liturgical abuses.
Cry me a river.
Generally speaking, they don't much like the airing of abuses of theology, catechesis and our Liturgy and want to figure out how to protect people whose abuses are being highlighted.
In the real world, I don’t think the big problem facing the body of Christ is Ratzinger hermeneutics. And let’s be clear: you’ve not shown positively that Ratzinger doesn’t believe in a smaller purer church, at best you’ve shown that those who think he does believe in it haven’t established their position beyond a reasonable doubt.
I think the big problem is the people who are using “smaller and purer Church” to kick others out. I think the big problem is what is happening to Bryan Hehir and others like him. So I want to convince those attacking Bryan Hehir to stop it.
And unless Ratzinger himself clearly denies that’s what he meant, I think it is going to keep happening. People will assume that he agrees with his archbishop.
So why won’t he say something? Simple, workaday, solution.
And what do you think should be done to help people like Bryan Hehir?
Instead of asking the guy to stop teaching error?
They could join the archbishop of Boston in trying to discredit Catholics who are calling out the errors and post an entry about the spectacular contribution to faithful teaching Hehir has made.
As you can imagine, there is nobody scratching their heads about why the Cardinal didn't add links to anything authored by Hehir about the sanctity and truthfulness of Humana Vitae and Evangelium Vitae because there is no such animal.
You can take to the bank it is going to get worse....before it gets better!
The donnybrook has begun in the pews and we are not going to stop until the unsound teachings do. If the people teaching unsoundly want to be thrown out with the dirty bathwater, it's sad, but free will is a beautiful thing.
Here's a post of interest.
It's not such a bad idea to gather up a nice long index of faithful Catholics the National Catholic Reporter/Commonweal/Vox Nova crowd has "exposed". I think that would be quite a startling expose of the damage unfaithful Catholics are doing to people who want the teachings of the Church proclaimed.
They are shocked, shocked I tell you that the days of inertia are behind us.
Maybe they thought by taking us down one by one, we would all be intimidated.
Well, in case it isn't clear, when priests are unfaithful to doctrine, most of them are going to cave when we start sending moles in to record their antics. No matter where Bishops are in faithfulness to doctrine, most of them are going to cave when we start to publicly record our requests asking them to intercede and counting the days when they don't.
In the end, though it is obvious they do not care about the souls of our children or the flock, they do care about their reputations and money. All I can say is, let's have a go at it and we'll see how the donnybrook ends.
Finally, all that ever needs to be said about what we are doing is beautifully expressed in a comment on Fr. Z's Blog.
Sorry, but loud voices on the internet, like Michael Voris, our own host, and so many others cannot be silenced by spurious charges of incivility. If a priest or a bishop is teaching heterodoxy, or permitting heterodoxy to flourish, sound him out. Charity sometimes requires the use of harsh terms, and always requires honesty in discourse.
If you have not done so already, please get to the TAKE ACTION link at Bryan Hehir Exposed and fill out the very simple format to fax to Bishop Coleman, the Nuncio, the Holy Father and the Holy See vis-a-vis the sham search for the head Catholic lobbyist for Massachusetts Catholics.
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