He 'fully understands' China's one-child policy and yanking pregnant women out of their homes to kill their children to save money.
What we ended up doing is setting up a system whereby we did cut by $1.2 trillion upfront, the deficit over the next 10 years. And we set up a group of senators that have to come up with another $1.2 to $1.7 trillion in savings or automatically there will be cuts that go into effect in January to get those savings. So the savings will be accomplished. But as I was talking to some of your leaders, you share a similar concern here in China. You have no safety net. Your policy has been one which I fully understand -- I’m not second-guessing -- of one child per family. The result being that you’re in a position where one wage earner will be taking care of four retired people. Not sustainable.
So hopefully we can act in a way on a problem that's much less severe than yours, and maybe we can learn together from how we can do that.
Whoah. He is a lunatic.
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Boehner has summed it up perfectly..What the hell, Joe?
I am blown away by the revelation that killing people to control debt is truly where they are going.
Biden is a monument to what Sacrilegious Communion will do to your intellect.
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HUH? Whoa, dear God forgive us!
"Whoah. He is a lunatic"
I'm not sure, he is a Catholic in good standing who receieves communion. I don't think any bishop has come out and said he's not. So as a Catholic myself I would assume that it's ok that couldn't care less about the life and rights of pre-born humans.
Jasper
Even from a secular viewpoint, his babbling is incoherent. He says that he understands and "doesn't second-guess" the one-child policy, but later opines that the scenario of one worker supporting 4 retired people is unsustainable? How can he think that makes sense? Oh wait - I forgot! Euthanasia!
Anon of 11:08, Cdll Wuerl has made no secret that he intends to disobey Canon 915 with regards to these pols.
"Anon of 11:08, Cdll Wuerl has made no secret that he intends to disobey Canon 915 with regards to these pols."
Exactly. I guess we can't blame Biden. He's following what the Kenndy's did and has approval from the church as far as I'm concerned. Remember when Satan visited Hyannisport Mass on a hot summer day in '64? I'm sure you all know the story.
http://www.wisconsinchristiannews.com/view_details.php?sid=2290
During his 1994 re-election campaign, Kennedy said, “I wear as a badge of honor my opposition to the anti-choicers.”
Jasper
Catholic Bishop: Boot Pro-Abortion Politicians From Church
Responding to the question, “How should the Church respond to Catholic politicians who support legalized abortion,” Bishop Aquila says: “Their particular bishops can use the process of correction that is given to us in sacred Scripture, especially in Matthew’s Gospel. Our Lord tells us to speak to the person, and then take two or three others with us if he does not change.”
“If he still does not change, the Church can speak to him, which is done through the bishop. [The bishop] exercises the authority of Christ. Christ then says that if that person is still obstinate and will not change, treat them as a tax collector or Gentile. Expel him,” Bishop Aquila adds.
Far from delighting in throwing people out of the Catholic Church, Aquila said, “We do this out of love for the person, seeking his conversion. He needs to understand that the salvation of his soul is in jeopardy because of the positions he is taking.”
www.lifenews.com/.../catholic-bishop-boot-pro-abortion-politicians-from-church/
And people wonder why this Bishop spoke as stronly as he did. With folks like Biden, it is not mystery to me.
And people wonder why this Bishop spoke as strongly as he did. With folks like Biden, it is no mystery to me.
Sorry for typos.
The End can't be far off.
Veronica
1. There's only one reason why Biden is vice-president. He poses no threat to Obama's psyche. Do you think that Obama would hire somebody who could at least think on his level, let alone out-shine him? (This isn't praise for Obama, btw).
2. Nobody should be surprised if Cdl. Wuerl chooses to disobey Canon 915. The vast majority of Catholic bishops in the U.S. do. Why? Because they are far more interested in maintaining access to power and influence -- and in increasing their own -- than in defending the innocent! Indeed, if memory serves, JPII "the Great" even distributed the Eucharist to Italian legislators who supported legalized abortion. I mean, if JPII, the Great Guiding Star of Holy Mother Church, can do it....
Carol (and Jerry, if you're still with us), this is the kind of thing I'm talking about when I say that the hierarchs have gotten it wrong for centuries. It's not about theology; it's about carnality...regarding sex, power, money, privledge, a sense of entitlement, institutional arrogance and isolation from reality, let alone from episcopal duty.
If you're waiting for Pope Benedict to discipline Cdl. Wuerl, you'd be better off waiting for Joseph Stalin to rise from the dead and convert.
One other thing: If Biden thinks this way about the unborn, how do you think these "progressives" will deal with the elderly and infirm, especially w/"Obamacare"?
Two years ago, I went through a horrendous experience when my mother contracted cancer and died within six months. I learned that the medical profession doesn't give a stinking damn about the elderly and infirm. Somehow, they lose their humanity, and I fought for my mother every step of the way.
That's why I hate this idea of defending life "from conception till natural death," surprisingly enough. I can see the day (and it will happen, mark my words) when the Church will use that trite phrase as a justification to act toward the elderly and infirm the way the medical profession acts now.
Don't think that's possible? Well, if the bishops can so easily sacrifice the unborn to their political agendas (which include nationalized health insurance, btw), why couldn't they just as easily sacrifice the elderly and infirm?
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There is, indeed, a tumor in the Church and it must be excised pronto!
Joe, I agree with everything you wrote.
"Carol (and Jerry, if you're still with us), this is the kind of thing I'm talking about when I say that the hierarchs have gotten it wrong for centuries. It's not about theology; it's about carnality...regarding sex, power, money, privledge, a sense of entitlement, institutional arrogance and isolation from reality, let alone from episcopal duty."
Joe, it's not going to change as long as human beings are running it.
Veronica
Veronica, I understand what you're saying. But the fact is that Church leadership must be held to a higher standard. Jesus Himself said that much will be expected from whom much has been given. If the hierarchs refuse to take their responsibilities seriously, then the laity and lower clergy must constantly hold their feet to the fire and demand that structures of internal accountability either be created in the Church or used if previously ignored (such as Canon Law).
Note to Jerry: There's a reason why Catherine of Siena and Francis of Assisi (among others) were canonized.
Joe, they are held to a higher standard; they just fall far short of it.
Veronica
Joseph,
Nobody who reads the 2000 years of Catholic teaching on carnality could say the hierarchy got it wrong. The prince mentality and cult is entirely another story.
We have problems for sure but dispensing with our deposit of faith, left to us by thousands of saints, isn't accurate!
The silence of our Catholic religious leaders is deafening. At this point, with all of the negativity towards the Catholic Church anyway, what do they have to lose? We who are faithful to the Church need our leaders to lead and protect us from scandal. Maybe someday......
I'd rather hear a Bishop address Biden and his anti-Catholic comments than Romney or Boehner!
Carol, you don't understand. The hierarchy is not living up to the Church's teachings on carnality and hasn't been for centuries! THAT is the issue! It has nothing to do with the deposit of faith or "binding and loosing." It has to do with the hierarchy believing it's so above everything andn everyone that it refuses to challenge its own sin and repent.
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Sounds like a great idea, myself.
I'm with you there.
The hierarchy is not living up to the Church's teachings on carnality and hasn't been for centuries! THAT is the issue!
Yeah, I look in once in awhile, thanks.
What are you saying? That even popes like St. Pius X and Pius XI were soft on poofters or fornicating priests, or that they engaged in such behavior themselves? Or are you upset that they wore a tiara and sat in a big plush chair?
Are you getting back to your egalitarian error that a millennium of popes got it wrong in defending their right to rule? I thought Carol banned that, but you seem to still be pushing it. Why else are you calling me out?
The crime of the popes and bishops today is failure to rule, actually. They have let crimes abound and have substituted caprice for justice. They are effeminate. Past popes and bishops fell into this on occasion, too, but it is endemic today.
Take St. Pius X. He wore the Tiara, yet no more humble a man ever sat in the Chair. He ruled with an iron fist exactly as the times called for it. History will prove out that he saved the Church from the gates of Hell.
Your accusations don't touch him. And this can be said of most of the occupants of St. Peter's Chair.
Joe, there is a reason that a protestant has never been canonized: They aren't Roman Catholic.
Your call for the elimination of a hierarchical Roman Catholic Church is protestant.
Unfortunately this has to be said....you are a right leaning version of the "Voice of the Faithless" or SNAP.
You see the RC Church as a political problem to be solved instead of the Church as both an institution that is worldly and corrupt and in it's mystical being the perfect bride of Christ..
Your ecclesiology is essentially protestant.
I'm sorry to say I have taken down Joe's last few posts. He tells me he is no longer Catholic and I can't host the blasphemy he has been baited with here. I just can't do it.
I've spent time talking to Joseph offline to try to persuade him to stop but I was unable to convince him.
Please pray for him and the situation. Thanks.
That's too bad. Joe seems like a good man who has been driven to despair by the post-conciliar Church and its corrupt hierarchy. I feel a certain sympathy towards that point of view but essentially, you're right, Carol, it is blasphemy. As someone else remarked, it is essentially protestantism.
Let us hope Joe can accept the human failures of the hierarchy. Many are deniers of Christ. Peter denied Christ. Peter returned to Rome to face martyrdom when he encountered the Lord and asked, "quo vadis, Domine?". Many of these modernist deniers will repent abjectly on their deathbeds when confronted with the abyss of eternity absent the Beatific Vision. Let us hope the worst of us do the same.
That said, let the Mass of the Ages be restored to the Church, that the heresies of modernism. of protestantism, of the marxist obsession with "social justice" be destroyed. The Church exists by the Divine Will to save souls and ensure their membership in the Church Triumphant. If the hierarchy preaches anything else, it is but a PAC. USCCB take note.
Which bring up the issue of when will Cardinal Pat O'Malley start to teach the Faith here in Boston?
Who can blame him?
And there but for the grace of God...
Let we who think we stand take heed, lest we fall too.
Veronica
Why do many people look as humans as consumers of wealth and deduce that they are costly to society. From a purely economic point of view; don't they recognize the potential of every human being? The moral case for Life is obvious, but there is also an economic reality. When humans are Free, they are greater creators of wealth than they are consumers of wealth. In short, people are a gift to the world, not a burden on it.
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