Why would Fr. Lombardi give such a distorted picture of the disaster in Rome?
Maybe the Romans think nobody outside of Rome counts in 'we' and 'all'?
Nah..that still doesn't make sense.
Cardinal Burke gave an interview that gently spoke the truth.
Burke added, “we don't want our children” to get the “impression” that sexual relationships outside God’s plan are alright, “by seeming to condone gravely sinful acts on the part of a family member.”
“We wouldn’t, if it were another kind of relationship — something that was profoundly disordered and harmful — we wouldn't expose our children to that relationship, to the direct experience of it. And neither should we do it in the context of a family member who not only suffers from same-sex attraction, but who has chosen to live out that attraction, to act upon it, committing acts which are always and everywhere wrong, evil.”
There's so much in our society today which is giving the message that any form of sexual relationship, if it somehow pleases you — or you’re attracted to it — is alright, is correct. And we don't want our children to get that impression, by seeming to condone gravely sinful acts on the part of a family member.
Now with regard to parishes, the situation is very similar because the parish is — I believe it was Saint John Paul II who once said — a ‘family of families.’ And so, if you have a parish member who is living in public sin in a homosexual relationship, well, the priest should try to stay close to that individual — or to both the individuals if they’re Catholic — and try to help them to leave the sinful relationship and to begin to lead a chaste life.
The pastor [should] encourage them also to pray and to participate in Sunday Mass and other appropriate ways of trying to overcome grave sin in their lives. Those people [who] are living in that way certainly cannot have any leadership role in the parish, because it would give the impression to parishioners that the way they are living is perfectly alright. Because, [when] we lead in a parish, in a certain way, we are giving witness to a coherent Catholic life. And people who are not coherent with their Catholic faith aren’t given leadership roles. They are not asked, for instance, to be a lector at the Holy Mass — or [to] assume some other leadership position — until they have rectified their situation and gone through a conversion of life and then are ready to give such leadership.
I believe Cardinal Burke referred to this intervention as 'damaging'.
It surely was and is.
There's a reason why Pope Francis didn't make a mockery out of truth with a woman telling a sob story about her husband wanting to take his mistress to Christmas Mass in front of her grandchildren.
Imagine the reaction of the world if they rounded up a husband, so brazenly disrespectful to his wife and God that he has been pressuring her to bring his lover home for Christmas festivities, and a wife, so far gone in her mind and soul, she is willing to stomp on her grandchildren's moral compass to keep her husband from the realization what he is doing is destructive?
What would everyone think about a Pope who would search for a couple in such obvious intellectual and spiritual turmoil, and use the pain and suffering of that family to promote doing it to families all over the world?
The deception of this agenda has a smell.
It is a familiar smell to me.
It's the stink of sulfur.
I don't profess to know where it's coming from, maybe Cardinal Kasper brought it into the room, but the Pope is at the very least, applauding it, asking his see to applaud it and bring it home to 'push' it to our families. His spokesperson is out in the public square implying everyone in the room highly appreciates what Pope Francis is doing to Church teaching on the family.
The situation is pretty bad and I think we have only begun to see the whites of this demons eyes.
This story reveals the mud Pope Francis is slinging onto truth, and the bitterness he is imposing on family members who must speak it.
Can you taste the pain the author reveals and the hostility directed towards the man who has spoken the truth?
“And neither should we do it in the context of a family member who not only suffers from same-sex attraction, but who has chosen to live out that attraction, to act upon it, committing acts which are always and everywhere wrong, evil.” (Cardinal Burke quote)
But that’s exactly the approach that sends gay and lesbian Catholics — and members of their extended families — running away from the church, said Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of the largest Catholic gay and lesbian rights group, DignityUSA.
We have been waiting for this synod to put the final piece in the puzzle Pope Francis has been erecting in St. Peter's Square.
And now, we have it.
A church that never makes a judgment upon the sin, there is no remorse, no Sacramental absolution of the sin - they die in that state - has an occupant in the Chair of St. Peter. St. Peter - who was crucified upside down for holding onto Truth even when his own murderers were trying to force him to recant truth.
An occupant who makes truth and those who speak it, the enemy.
But this too shall pass. We will find a cavern WITHIN Christ's Church and we will wait it out. We grab a ministry and speak the truth. Loudly.
Do yourself a favor and watch Cardinal Burke's interview.
There is one little elephant in the room.
Raymond asks, Who else supports Kasper's theology? They don't see anyone else besides Kasper.
But the reality of the situation is, Pope Francis supports it.
I am always mystified why gay people think they are in a league of their own.
“It is clear this ‘love the sinner’ but ‘hate the sin’ approach does not work,” she said from Boston. “It is inappropriate in dealing with pornographers.”
Fill in the blank:
“It is clear this ‘love the sinner’ but ‘hate the sin’ approach does not work,” she said from Boston. “It is inappropriate in dealing with __________.”
Masturbators, adulterers, thieves, murderers.
The destruction Pope Francis has imposed upon our families will blossom in the coming years. A gift that will keep on giving, much like the distortions at Vatican II.
This is the time to get out of any parish where a priest is either starving the flock or overtly misleading - and find a shepherd for yourself of your family. IF it's a long drive, re-arrange your Sundays so that the Lord's business is your primary achievement for the day.
Rorate posted a letter that says everything we need to know about this papacy.
I live in the diocese of [omitted] in [a small country in East Africa], a diocese that's very full of life, marriages, baptisms, confirmations, vocations are so abundant that they would seem improbable elsewhere. Since I lived for many years in Belgium and in Ireland years ago, I know what I'm talking about. Our bishop, [name omitted], though not at all old, doesn't like to be online or read things on screen, he also hates smartphones even though they're everywhere here now, so I often print things I find online to show him. Now, our diocese isn't traditional at all, it was thanks to the web and pages as yours that I found out about the Old Mass, but Mass is usually very respectful, even when it's filled with our African joy, which is always very respectful.
Anyway, the bishop asked me to bring him news from the Synod as often as possible, and since I live very near the cathedral I am trying to print things and take them to him daily. So, yesterday I printed this page and he was struck by this passage from Thursday's meeting.
"With regard to cohabitation in certain regions, it was shown that this is often due to economic and social factors and not a form of refusal of the teachings of the Church. Often, moreover, these and other types of de facto unions are lived while conserving the wish for a Christian life, and therefore require suitable pastoral care. Similarly, while emphasising the impossibility of recognising same sex marriage, the need for a respectful and non-discriminatory approach with regard to homosexuals was in any case underlined."*
He was in the office with the Vicar-General, and he stood up and then fell down on his chair, took his hands to his head and started to weep silently. He was obviously very shaken. He said to the Vicar-General: "Oh my God, what are they doing? The people will soon get hold of declarations like these and they'll prefer to become evangelicals or even Muslims than remain Catholic! What are they doing in Rome? Oh my God, oh my God!"
Fall on your knees and weep.