Saturday, October 11, 2014

Synod Day 5: Fr Lombardi says "all" highly appreciate interventions.


Why would Fr. Lombardi give such a distorted picture of the disaster in Rome?

Maybe the Romans think nobody outside of Rome counts in 'we' and 'all'?

Nah..that still doesn't make sense.

Cardinal Burke gave an interview that gently spoke the truth.



Burke added, “we don't want our children” to get the “impression” that sexual relationships outside God’s plan are alright, “by seeming to condone gravely sinful acts on the part of a family member.”


“We wouldn’t, if it were another kind of relationship — something that was profoundly disordered and harmful — we wouldn't expose our children to that relationship, to the direct experience of it. And neither should we do it in the context of a family member who not only suffers from same-sex attraction, but who has chosen to live out that attraction, to act upon it, committing acts which are always and everywhere wrong, evil.”

There's so much in our society today which is giving the message that any form of sexual relationship, if it somehow pleases you — or you’re attracted to it — is alright, is correct. And we don't want our children to get that impression, by seeming to condone gravely sinful acts on the part of a family member.

Now with regard to parishes, the situation is very similar because the parish is — I believe it was Saint John Paul II who once said — a ‘family of families.’ And so, if you have a parish member who is living in public sin in a homosexual relationship, well, the priest should try to stay close to that individual — or to both the individuals if they’re Catholic — and try to help them to leave the sinful relationship and to begin to lead a chaste life.

The pastor [should] encourage them also to pray and to participate in Sunday Mass and other appropriate ways of trying to overcome grave sin in their lives. Those people [who] are living in that way certainly cannot have any leadership role in the parish, because it would give the impression to parishioners that the way they are living is perfectly alright. Because, [when] we lead in a parish, in a certain way, we are giving witness to a coherent Catholic life. And people who are not coherent with their Catholic faith aren’t given leadership roles. They are not asked, for instance, to be a lector at the Holy Mass — or [to] assume some other leadership position — until they have rectified their situation and gone through a conversion of life and then are ready to give such leadership.



I believe Cardinal Burke referred to this intervention as 'damaging'.

It surely was and is.

There's a reason why Pope Francis didn't make a mockery out of truth with a woman telling a sob story about her husband wanting to take his mistress to Christmas Mass in front of her grandchildren.

Imagine the reaction of the world if they rounded up a husband, so brazenly disrespectful to his wife and God that he has been pressuring her to bring his lover home for Christmas festivities, and a wife, so far gone in her mind and soul, she is willing to stomp on her grandchildren's moral compass to keep her husband from the realization what he is doing is destructive?

What would everyone think about a Pope who would search for a couple in such obvious intellectual and spiritual turmoil, and use the pain and suffering of that family to promote doing it to families all over the world?

The deception of this agenda has a smell.

It is a familiar smell to me.

It's the stink of sulfur.

I don't profess to know where it's coming from, maybe Cardinal Kasper brought it into the room, but the Pope is at the very least, applauding it, asking his see to applaud it and bring it home to 'push' it to our families.  His spokesperson is out in the public square implying everyone in the room highly appreciates what Pope Francis is doing to Church teaching on the family.

The situation is pretty bad and I think we have only begun to see the whites of this demons eyes.

This story reveals the mud Pope Francis is slinging onto truth, and the bitterness he is imposing on family members who must speak it.

Can you taste the pain the author reveals and the hostility directed towards the man who has spoken the truth?


“And neither should we do it in the context of a family member who not only suffers from same-sex attraction, but who has chosen to live out that attraction, to act upon it, committing acts which are always and everywhere wrong, evil.” (Cardinal Burke quote)

But that’s exactly the approach that sends gay and lesbian Catholics — and members of their extended families — running away from the church, said Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of the largest Catholic gay and lesbian rights group, DignityUSA.

We have been waiting for this synod to put the final piece in the puzzle Pope Francis has been erecting in St. Peter's Square.

And now, we have it.


A church that never makes a judgment upon the sin, there is no remorse, no Sacramental absolution of the sin - they die in that state - has an occupant in the Chair of St. Peter. St. Peter - who was crucified upside down for holding onto Truth even when his own murderers were trying to force him to recant truth.

An occupant who makes truth and those who speak it, the enemy.

But this too shall pass. We will find a cavern WITHIN Christ's Church and we will wait it out. We grab a ministry and speak the truth. Loudly.

Do yourself a favor and watch Cardinal Burke's interview.

There is one little elephant in the room.

Raymond asks, Who else supports Kasper's theology? They don't see anyone else besides Kasper.

But the reality of the situation is, Pope Francis supports it.


I am always mystified why gay people think they are in a league of their own.

“It is clear this ‘love the sinner’ but ‘hate the sin’ approach does not work,” she said from Boston. “It is inappropriate in dealing with pornographers.”

Fill in the blank:

“It is clear this ‘love the sinner’ but ‘hate the sin’ approach does not work,” she said from Boston. “It is inappropriate in dealing with __________.”

Masturbators, adulterers, thieves, murderers.


The destruction Pope Francis has imposed upon our families will blossom in the coming years. A gift that will keep on giving, much like the distortions at Vatican II.

This is the time to get out of any parish where a priest is either starving the flock or overtly misleading - and find a shepherd for yourself of your family. IF it's a long drive, re-arrange your Sundays so that the Lord's business is your primary achievement for the day.


Rorate posted a letter that says everything we need to know about this papacy.

I live in the diocese of [omitted] in [a small country in East Africa], a diocese that's very full of life, marriages, baptisms, confirmations, vocations are so abundant that they would seem improbable elsewhere. Since I lived for many years in Belgium and in Ireland years ago, I know what I'm talking about. Our bishop, [name omitted], though not at all old, doesn't like to be online or read things on screen, he also hates smartphones even though they're everywhere here now, so I often print things I find online to show him. Now, our diocese isn't traditional at all, it was thanks to the web and pages as yours that I found out about the Old Mass, but Mass is usually very respectful, even when it's filled with our African joy, which is always very respectful.

Anyway, the bishop asked me to bring him news from the Synod as often as possible, and since I live very near the cathedral I am trying to print things and take them to him daily. So, yesterday I printed this page and he was struck by this passage from Thursday's meeting.

"With regard to cohabitation in certain regions, it was shown that this is often due to economic and social factors and not a form of refusal of the teachings of the Church. Often, moreover, these and other types of de facto unions are lived while conserving the wish for a Christian life, and therefore require suitable pastoral care. Similarly, while emphasising the impossibility of recognising same sex marriage, the need for a respectful and non-discriminatory approach with regard to homosexuals was in any case underlined."*

He was in the office with the Vicar-General, and he stood up and then fell down on his chair, took his hands to his head and started to weep silently. He was obviously very shaken. He said to the Vicar-General: "Oh my God, what are they doing? The people will soon get hold of declarations like these and they'll prefer to become evangelicals or even Muslims than remain Catholic! What are they doing in Rome? Oh my God, oh my God!"

Yes.

Fall on your knees and weep.

7 comments:

Left-footer said...

Thank you, and please keep up the flow of information and comment. Am tweeting and facebooking everything.

God bless!

Allen said...

Bergoglio is stage one in a long tribulation. He serves Mammon.

Anonymous said...

"There is one little elephant in the room.

Raymond asks, Who else supports Kasper's theology? They don't see anyone else besides Kasper.

But the reality of the situation is, Pope Francis supports it."


TTC: THANK YOU !!! for stating what NEEDS to be stated.

Your ENTIRE comment(s), I shall re-read many time.

Anonymous said...

Heartsick with all of this...and that's an understatement. I pray for and worry about our dear priests here in the archdiocese who do the TLM for us ....oh how we must pray for them to be strong because they will truly suffer much. went to Market Basket this morning and when I came out The Knights of Columbus were there fundraising....I foolishly asked the gentleman how he felt about the information coming out the Synod...he looked at me with a rather blank/confused stare....that about said it all for me...very little will be said in the parishes and much like the time after VII the parishoners will be at the mercy of prelates who will eagerly accept compromise.

Anonymous said...

More bad news on day 5: More stacking of the Synod against Catholic teaching and practice?

Pope Francis makes an important move at the synod

John Thavis
10/10/14

www.johnthavis.com/pope-francis-makes-an-important-move-at-the-synod#.VDmRBrnVAqR

The Vatican just announced that Pope Francis has named six additional prelates to help write the revised relatio for the Synod of Bishops, to be released Monday. At the risk of oversimplifying, they all seem to be on the pope’s wavelength when it comes to promoting pastoral mercy.

They will assist Cardinal Peter Erdo, the primary drafter of the relatio, and two other synod officials, in the task of summing up the first week of spirited synod debate in a document that will form the basis for future discussion.

Sources in Rome view the revised relatio as the key document going forward, and there is particular interest in how it treats some of the more controversial issues at the synod, including proposals to admit divorced and remarried Catholics to the sacraments.

The papal appointees to the drafting group are:

Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Culture.
Cardinal Donald W. Wuerl, archbishop of Washington, D.C.
Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernandez, rector of the Pontifical Catholic University of Argentina and one of the pope’s top theological advisors.
Archbishop Carlos Aguiar Retes of Mexico, president of CELAM, the Latin American bishops’ council.
Archbishop Peter Kang U-Il of South Korea.
Father Adolfo Nicolás Pachón of Spain, superior general of the Jesuit order.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for blog, it's great to hear the truth especially from fellow Bostonian.

JB said...


Cardinal Burke's statement was actually quite chilling. They are accustomed to saying things very indirectly in Rome, known as "romanita," a certain style of nuance. So for him to say directly "If we are not absolutely loyal to the words of Christ, I don't know what we are. We are certainly not the Church," that's him basically saying "this is anti Church, anti Christ."