Saturday, March 21, 2015

What comes after a Papal edict to teach and practice heresy and what do we do in the meantime?



Hillary White wrote an article at the Remnant that I highly recommend reading, thinking and praying about.

I don’t have any answers for the questions I will pose below, but I think, with less than eight months to go before the next installment of the Synod to End the Family, now might be a good time to at least open the discussion: what do we do when the Cardinal Kasper’s New Paradigm is officially in place?

Simply put, can a Catholic in good conscience continue to attend a parish where the priest has agreed to go along with the New Paradigm? And if not, what then?

Ultimately, I believe we are in a situation in the Church so dire that only the long view of history is going to be able to determine what is really happening. But this is not to say that we who are living in it are unable to discern what our duty is here and now. I propose, therefore, only to start the discussion by asking some obvious but painful questions, and to perhaps illumine it with a few easily verifiable facts.

I'm going to tell you the exact moment I knew our beloved Holy Father would ask us to embrace and practice heresy.

It wasn't his disrespect and condescending insults of 2000 years of practitioners and praxis.

It wasn't the absence of Church teaching on moral theology.

It wasn't the now hundreds of off-the-cuff statements he made that conveyed to listeners in every corner of the world that Church teaching on breaking the commandments should be ignored in practice because they're antiquated, the people who practice them are rigid, creed-reciting sourpusses who are afraid to dance.

It wasn't the numerous instances when he discredited, obstructed and dismantled Traditionalists.

It wasn't even when my own children cited the Pope's encouragement of immoral conduct, making them skeptical of 30 years of painful Catechesis in the world pulling them away from it. Though admittedly, that was the moment he became anathema to me. The long battle of keeping their moral compass straight through the many priests who tried to lure them into the pit, the many parishes I fled to find them a faithful pastor - or at least one who wouldn't lure them into heresy - the day they regurgitated what the Pope is teaching and expressed their skepticism, perhaps for the rest of their lives -- that is the day I wanted to punch Pope Francis in the nose. I've wanted to punch him in the nose every day since. But it still gave him the benefit of the doubt that it was not his intention to lead Christ's Church and people to embrace and practice heresy.

The day I knew was the day he appointed Kasper to lead the Synod on the family and asked us to embrace and practice the heresy Kasper teaches.

There we have it straight from the horses mouth.

There is no miscommunication or misunderstanding possible. He appointed a heretic and asked the Church to embrace and practice it. The end.

The deceptive and sleaze around the Synod and the Relatio confirmed the moment Pope Francis appointed a heretic and asked the Church to embrace and practice it, in spite of it's contradiction to 2000 years of theology.

We don't have to wonder about whether he is going to do it. There it is in all it's glory.

So, what do we do now?

Same thing we've always done.

Find a pastor who will remain faithful. Find the remnant. Practice and teach our religion in the cavern. And take every opportunity to resist and trip them. Like the Conference of Polish Bishops, like bloggers, find a mountain and witness that under no circumstances will we teach and practice their heresy. We are going nowhere. We will stay and muck up everything they try to roll out until they retreat. In every diocese, in every parish and every apostolate.

We are two generations of parents and grandparents whose children have been raped and robbed. They have no idea what that means and what they are up against.

The show in Rome is more of a threat to us than the muslim crusaders ethnically cleansing Christians with the help and support of the President of the United States and politicians whom they idolize, adore and honor. They are not going to lead our children into immorality and sin as the devil rises out of the abyss to kill us.

You want to know what we're going to do? Give Russ Steinback of the MA Knights of Columbus a call. He'll give you an earful. Tell you all about how Pope Francis and Cardinal Dolan were a witness to parade souls into clapping fornication and tell you the reasons why he couldn't get it executed.

You want to know what we're going to do? Call Fr. Rosica. He'll tell you that every time he publishes or tweets the propaganda, we will use his own words and actions and demonstrate how the errors lead our people into Sodom and Gomorrah. When he bullies and threatens us, we intends to pull together and fight back with masses of Catholics whose children they robbed. We expose every attempt to tell us to STFU and then end up drinking their own poison. By the Grace of God.

We're going to go to Mass, daily if and when we can. We're going to do what it takes to stay in a state of Grace every day. We're going to teach our religion. And we are going muck their agenda up from now until the October Synod, and afterwards if we have to.

Let's acknowledge the elephant in the room.

Let them go back to Rome demoralized and tired and knowing that if they do it, we will reject the authority of the Pope and there is going to be a big fugatz. A lot of commotion. We don't know how it will play out. But there's one thing we do know. Even a pope is not going to separate us from the Chair of Peter of which he is a temporary occupant. We will, somehow, put the rubber ball on his nose and the noses of anyone who utters the agenda and we will carry on until the smoke rises again. We'll see plenty of ugly and cowardice. The boys will be separated from the men.

I believe informing the Holy Father what will happen is an act of charity. Maybe he will reconsider and his papacy will be spared the nightmare ahead of him. But I am not the least bit worried about whether he will or won't. Other then dreading the work ahead of us if he does. Whatever happens, happens. We will rise to the occasion.

Worthy is the Lamb.

I do not give a flying, flipping turd that the Pope doesn't like Catholics who are going to hold his feet to the fire to pass on the religion that gives our children a daily dose of Sanctifying Grace. I'm not losing any sleep over it. Rock on dude. Rock on.

So long as they know there is no way and no possibility we will teach our children the commandments can be ignored, breaking them can be virtuous and all the other farcical and diabolical concepts he has floated through the heretics he has appointed.

It is not happening and there will be some kind of earthquake that leads a huge divide in the fault, come the Synod.

We are going to stand as a witness on the opposite side of the Pope. We will retain the Chair of Peter and the Deposit of Faith. We will say to our children "look, this is the Chair of Peter and the Deposit of Faith. The Pope is not in it. " We will be in the faces of every bishop and priest, right in the pews on on the internet. There will be plenty of priests who will be with us. Enough refuges for our children. We have Christ's promises.

That's what we'll do because at the end of the day, our children will be reluctant to jump over into the Roman Sodom and Gomorrah. That is my job above everything else. To be a witness to the truth to the children in my care. Those are promises I have made to Christ. I am not breaking them. For any mortal. Even should a pope ask me to do so.

God will heal the division at some point in the future.



14 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'll stay in my parish church as long as Jesus is Present in that Tabernacle, someone has to keep Him company. Ignore the clown of a Priests sermon filled with jokes during Lent, turn the ears off and say the Rosary. The Sorrowful Mysteries are perfect for such occasions. Try and be an example of what "should" be done. It's difficult bringing children or friends to church when heresy abounds but that's the perfect time to use the old saying my Parents used, "just because your friends are doing it doesn't make it right" ...nodded at the Kiss of Peace with hands clasped, kneel at the Agnus Dei. So what if you get strange looks, sit up front and you won't witness the rest. Just my thoughts.

TTC said...

Good reflection.

I never recommend people with small children stay in a parish led by a heretic or weak priest. Terrible damage is done to them, within the family. Those families need to find a pastor and let him teach our religion to their children - support and pray for those of us whose children are adults. We can network through the internet, prayer groups, other kinds of opportunities.

Those are my thoughts FWIW.

I don't see what difference it makes that a pope is trying to create policies that empower them from Rome. They will get bolder, but so will we. LOL. Good times ahead.

'DIS & 'DAT said...

Thanks Carol. Good plan. It would be great if there was a central web site we could all go to get updates and action ideas of how we should proceed if the Synod turns out as you expect. I would be happy to help support it.

Michael Dowd

Anonymous said...

I thought Hilary White's article very good, but she doesn't give me any answers.

I am in a bad diocese that is tightly controlled. My diocese is absolutely in love with Francis. A priest here who would refuse to go along with the heretical program will not stand a chance.

We have two sedevacantist chapels and two SSPX chapels within a twenty mile radius in either direction. Any Catholic here serious about their faith left the diocese long ago for any one of these chapels.

I know no one here in person for support. The internet is a helpful tool, but it does not take the place of local support.

What do I do?

TLM said...

A perfect example of Catholics in action is one: Patricia Jannuzzi, a theology teacher of Immaculata High School in New Jersey, who spoke out on her facebook page about gay activism, and how it is ruining the culture and our children. She spoke truth and has been FIRED for it, from a 'CATHOLIC' High School. I don't have all the details but from what I understand, she is sole supporter of her family, and now her job is gone. I also understand she was a crackerjack teacher and parishioner who taught the truth of Christ bravely and unapologetically and of course now she is paying the price. I don't know who the Bishop in the Diocese is, but whoever he is, he is a WIMP, and has BETRAYED not only this poor woman, but CHRIST HIMSELF. This Bishop needs to be called out, and put in the public spot light as a JUDAS.

Anonymous said...

If any parish goes along with this heresy, I would say that we should stop all monetary contributions to that parish Period! Hit them in the pocket book and be proud of it. No one should be supporting heresy.

Anonymous said...

Oh the pocketbook should be completely closed in the Archdiocese of Boston. There are plenty of good .Catholic Organizations or Convents to contribute to.

Anonymous said...

If a Pope Attempts To Destroy the Church?

by Christopher A. Ferrara
March 20, 2015

Francis shows no sign of giving up on his pursuit of a “pastoral” novelty, advocated by the ecclesiastical termite Cardinal Kasper, that would destroy in practice not only the dogma of the indissolubility of marriage but also respect for the dignity of the Blessed Sacrament and indeed the very concept of mortal sin itself as an impediment to its worthy reception.

Recall what John Paul II taught a mere 34 years ago in rejecting the “Kasper agenda,” which has quite obviously become the Francis agenda:


[T]he Church reaffirms her practice, which is based upon Sacred Scripture, of not admitting to Eucharistic Communion divorced persons who have remarried. They are unable to be admitted thereto from the fact that their state and condition of life objectively contradict that union of love between Christ and the Church which is signified and effected by the Eucharist. Besides this, there is another special pastoral reason: if these people were admitted to the Eucharist, the faithful would be led into error and confusion regarding the Church’s teaching about the indissolubility of marriage.

Utterly heedless of this constant teaching of the Magisterium, which stands at the very foundation of the moral edifice the Catholic Church alone still defends with perfect integrity, Francis continues — bizarrely — to agitate for precisely what John Paul II condemned.

Only days ago, in another of his free-wheeling homilies at Casa Santa Marta, Francis made another thinly veiled appeal for subversion of a Church discipline profoundly connected to Divine Revelation. This time he abused Scripture in order to depict as Pharisees those who defend the bimillenial discipline John Paul II affirmed. He cites the Gospel account of the lame man who was finally healed by Our Lord after many years of being unable to bathe in the pool at Bethesda, which effected miraculous cures whenever its waters were stirred by angels, because no one would carry him to the pool. Francis offered this twisted analogy to how the Pharisees condemned Our Lord’s healing of the man because it occurred on the Sabbath:


A man or a woman who feels sick within their soul, sad, who may have committed many mistakes in their life, at a certain point feel the waters stirring, the Holy Spirit moves something or they hear a word or… “Ah, I would like to go!”… And they muster up the courage to go. And how many times does this person find closed doors within the Christian community: “You can’t, no, you can’t. You made a mistake and you can’t. If you want to come, come to Sunday mass [sic] but stay there and don’t do anything more.” And what the Holy Spirit has done in the hearts of people, these Christians with the psychology of doctors of the law destroy.

Who are you to close the door of your heart to a man, to a woman who wants to improve, to join the community of God’s people once again, because the Holy Spirit has stirred something in their heart? Even today there are Christians who behave like the doctors of the law and “do the same thing they did with Jesus”, by objecting: “This one speaks heresy, this one cannot, this one goes against the discipline of the Church, this one goes against the law”. And thus they close the doors to so many people. Therefore, the Pope concluded, “let us ask the Lord today” for “conversion to the mercy of Jesus”: only in this way “will the law be fulfilled, because the law is to love God and neighbour, as ourselves”.

Anonymous said...

If a Pope Attempts To Destroy the Church? (concluded)

I quite agree with Father Zuhlsdorf, who writes with evident and quite warranted irritation: “But it seems to me that [Francis] has set up a straw man: who the heck are these ‘doctors of the law’ whom he has been disparaging with some frequency? I think he means those who argue that people who are divorced and civilly remarried should not be admitted to Holy Communion because they are objectively living in a state that is inconsistent with our understanding of the Eucharist.”

Now, the lame man in the Gospel account was not a sinner who sought forgiveness for his sins, but rather someone miraculously cured of a physical infirmity because he had faith in the Lord. The hyper-legalist Pharisees, who objected to this work being done on the Sabbath, bear no comparison whatsoever to Catholics — including John Paul II, for Heaven’s sake! — who defend Church discipline rooted in Our Lord’s own teaching on the indissolubility of marriage and the state of adultery in which those who divorce and purport to remarry are living. Indeed, Our Lord rebukedthe Pharisees for their hardness of heart precisely because they had admitted divorce into the Old Covenant. How is that for irony?

Francis has thus turned Scripture on its head in what can only be called a diabolical inversion of the true Gospel message. He uses the Gospel to condemn as Pharisees those who, in fact, oppose the kind of sophistry the Pharisees employed to justify their divorces and which Kasper now employs to argue for a “pastoral” accommodation of public adulterers who wish to receive Holy Communion while continuing their adulterous relations. Kasper calls this “tolerat[ing] that which cannot be accepted.” Nonsense. It is accepting that which cannot be tolerated. What could be more Pharisaical than this absurd proposal?

Quite revealing is Francis’ remark that people living in a state of adultery are being treated unjustly because, while they can attend Mass, they are told to “stay there and don’t do anything.” Isn’t attending Mass doing something — something of fundamental importance to the Faith? What else would Francis have these people “do” at Mass? Clearly, he would like to see them receive the Blessed Sacrament in violation of the very teaching John Paul II refused to abandon. This is just as Francis permitted when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires, and just as he has advised at least two women in Argentina to do despite an ecclesial discipline of twenty centuries’ standing he disregards at his pleasure.

What can we do? Saint Robert Bellarmine, a Doctor of the Church, famously gave this answer in response to the Protestant caricature of the Pope as some sort of absolute dictator whose will is law and who must be obeyed no matter what he commands:


Just as it is licit to resist the Pontiff who attacks the body, so also is it licit to resist him who attacks souls or destroys the civil order or above all, tries to destroy the Church. I say that it is licit to resist him by not doing what he orders and by impeding the execution of his will. It is not licit, however, to judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior. (De Romano Pontifice II. 29.)

Note well: Bellarmine contemplates the example of a Pope who “tries to destroy the Church” and must be resisted even if his subjects cannot depose him. One would resist not only by speaking out in opposition to the wayward Pope, but also “by not doing what he orders and by impeding the execution of his will.” For even where the Pope is concerned, “we must obey God rather than men (Acts 5:19).”

The prospect of a Pope who “tries to destroy the Church” seems to have assumed historical reality during this pontificate. The stage is now set for massive resistance to Francis if he persists in his current path. The Bishops of Africa and John Paul’s home country of Poland have already declared their absolute refusal to go along with “the Kasper agenda” Francis nonetheless continues to promote relentlessly.

'DIS & 'DAT said...

One can contribute to Patricia Jannuzzi by going to the Vox Cantoris web site:http://voxcantor.blogspot.com/

Michael Dowd

S said...

We will say to our children "look, this is the Chair of Peter and the Deposit of Faith. The Pope is not in it. " = We are Sedevacantists

Did you mean to say that?

Mary said...

What an article, God bless you! It did my heart good to read it. I too am in a parish with a faithless priest, who provides cover for this pope. What I see is too many Catholics, even faithful ones, who when they do hear Francis' heresies, they are, unfortunately too easily swayed by the claims he was, "misrepresented" by the leftist media, or for some reason believe it was a mistake due to translation. There is little to no consistent access to critique of his heresies getting out there to average Catholics. The left has essentially taken over what passes for Catholic media. Maybe if Mother Evangelica was still in control of EWTN she'd be hitting the truth home to a wide audience. We need faithful witness in our churches, getting the discussion going, by reminding all that what Francis & his cronies dismiss as antiquated, are from the Lord. Jesus Christ is not to be used as a puppet to promote worldly frauds, yet His actual teachings dismissed.

TTC said...

I am not an expert in sedevacanists but believe sedevacanists caricature the election of the Pope as invalid.

That is not where I was going.

His election is questionable but I don't know anyone who is going to raise that flag and ask people to salute.

He's doing his own thing, contradicting Church teaching. It belongs to him but he is not exercising its power. He is running his own show. I don't know the technicality of his standing and am not sure it will matter in the long run. Smarter people than will help us put it into it's legal context.

David Heath said...

Excellent article and speaks of what many parents every day have to do for their children - undo what the children have heard or been taught that contradicts the Faith, especially that which comes from Rome. You are correct in that the Pope seemingly is promoting his version of Catholicism, instead of handing down what has always been taught. But then, that is what VII promotes, is it not? Ecumenism denies there is only one true Faith and all men seemingly go to heaven, though that is not what Our Lord said - nor the Church until VII. The Pope is still the Pope and worthy of prayers, but it does seem to take a very great act of Faith to keep that reality in front of you, when you want to shove him aside out of pure disgust from what he preaches or promotes.

He seemingly is friend to no one but himself and especially not to those who try and live the Faith as handed down by Christ and the Church prior to VII.