Showing posts with label Stupak last minute deal. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Stupak last minute deal. Show all posts

Sunday, March 21, 2010

Gum It Up, Repeal and Replace

Caving for an executive order is either really naive or disingenuous.  We're not as stupid as we look.

Bart was given clear logic from  numerous people about the insufficiencies  in turning over votes to secure this disaster, including Executive Orders can't trump Federal law so he didn't go into this ignorant.

“The law of the land trumps any Executive Order, which can be reversed or altered at the stroke of a pen by this or any subsequent President without any congressional approval or notice," Boehner said.

"Moreover, while an Executive Order can direct members of the executive branch, it cannot direct the private sector," he added.

Opposition to the idea comes in part because technically it won't work to authentically ban abortion funding and can easily be reversed.

“Because of Roe v. Wade, courts have interpreted the decision as a statutory mandate that the government must provide federal funding for elective abortion in through federal programs. In other words, no Executive Order or regulation can override a statutory mandate unless Congress passes a law that prohibits federal funding from being used in this manner," Boehner explained.

Every time I begin to trust a democrat they do something deliberately dishonest. What is with them?

When you can't even get the USCCB on your side, you know your publicity stunt was a bust.


One proposal to address the serious problem in the Senate health care bill on abortion funding, specifically the direct appropriating of new funds that bypass the Hyde amendment, is to have the President issue an executive order against using these funds for abortion.  Unfortunately, this proposal does not begin to address the problem, which arises from decades of federal appellate rulings that apply the principles of Roe v. Wade to federal health legislation.  According to these rulings, such health legislation creates a statutory requirement for abortion funding, unless Congress clearly forbids such funding.  That is why the Hyde amendment was needed in 1976, to stop Medicaid from funding 300,000 abortions a year.  The statutory mandate construed by the courts would override any executive order or regulation.  This is the unanimous view of our legal advisors and of the experts we have consulted on abortion jurisprudence.  Only a change in the law enacted by Congress, not an executive order, can begin to address this very serious problem in the legislation."

The guy means well--he just didn't have the backbone to do the right thing in the face of the tyranny taking over the country. Pelosi did not need Stupak yesterday so today's deal signals Stupak and his holdouts would possibly have been enough votes to Nay the Bill.

Perhaps this was all cooked up by Pelosi et al to try to save Bart Stupak and other's seat when the people vote in November.

I'm really disappointed in the dishonesty.

The short-term game plan seems to be gum it up, repeal and replace.

We'll see what happens.

Friday, March 19, 2010

Is Bart Stupak derailing?

This doesn't seem like a good idea.

Although Stupak provided no details on the agreement, it could consist of a "concurrent resolution" that would change the abortion language in the Senate bill, but the Daily Caller reports today that parliamentary experts say such a resolution may not work to get a guarantee to ban abortion funding.

Pro-life advocates are concerned that an agreement could be reached and that the Senate would defeat it or President Barack Obama would sign the pro-abortion health care bill and veto the abortion funding ban.

That Pelosi is willing to negotiate after initially refusing to so may indicate she doesn't have enough votes for Sunday's planned vote on the pro-abortion bill.

Stupak said Pelosi and her colleagues "don't have the votes, or they wouldn't be talking to me."

Before the interview, Stupak announced a press conference with "other pro-life Democrats" he would not name for 11 a.m. Saturday morning.

He told The Hill he "hopes" he'll have an agreement to announce, saying "there's a proposal out there but nothing yet and we want to see it in writing and massage it."

She doesn't have the votes, so why would you give them to her when the abortion defunding deal would be as reliable as the phantom 60 thousand Catholic nuns?

This is definitely not the time to win a battle that will lose the war.

Come on Bart, we love you but keep both oars in the water!